Thursday 27 March 2014

Dear Chinese, regarding MH370 tragedy (updated with better translation)

UPDATES (with better translation)

I finally have the time to do a proper translation for this posting. It's not very good but probably better than the horrid one by Google

The posting here was written by the author in response to an op ed (http://news.ifeng.com/opinion/wangping/mahangzhuiji/) that appeared on the website of Phoenix TV (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Television), one of the leading current affairs channels in the greater china area.

給凤凰台 刘雪松 章子仪 陈坤 中国朋友(还有一些大马朋友)的一封信

我是一介大马草民无权无势中文不好,飞机道理也没有懂很多。飞机失踪后我同很多中国网民一样,看了很多BBC, CNN的追踪报道,慢慢长了不少知识,可也就那么一点点通识,道现实同影集差距很大很大,很多事情原来不是像神探夏洛克一样,每一集都能给出一个交待;原来在这个美国可以随意监听各国首脑的时代,还真的有雷达卫星探测不到的时候。(请先别对探测到blip的大马空军开骂,看下去好吗?)

I am just an ordinary Malaysian man, poor and powerless with bad mandarin. After the plane disappeared , I started watching a lot of BBC and CNN coverage, just like many of the Chinese Internet users, and  I slowly gain some knowledge about aviation. I came to realise that there is a big gap between TV drama and reality – there is no Sherlock Holmes in real life.

我有面书,也常上微博逛逛,可能是我年纪大了总是不明白为什么大家就那么爱在社交媒体上发表意见渲泄情绪。我总想,我的情绪如何低落,总比不上亲属朋友,我凭什么在这撒狗血闹情绪啊;这飞机也不是我的专业,总不能看了两集国家地理,就侃侃而谈-如果大家这样这样谈论着,还真能找出点蛛丝马迹,帮忙找到飞机我还真不介意加入。可看着看着,又不似社交网络上情绪奔腾的群众们,反反复复就在三个焦点上搅弄-无能大马,阴谋论,要真相。

I have a facebook and weibo account but hardly express my view on the social media. On the MH370 incident, I don’t see the point of sharing my emotions on social media even though I am sad. Who am I to showcase my sorrow? What we feel can never come close to the families and friends on board of the plane. It always puzzle me how netizens fanatically discuss about this incident but if you examine closely they seem to be interested in only three topics – incompetent Malaysia, conspiracy theories and of course the incessant calling for truth.

可是 拿大马孕妇当狗骂,拿马航义工当猪骂,这能行吗当大马拿着国际调查队伍給的结论说飞机到了8时还在飞的时候 你们狂骂 说为什么*延宕了一周才告知? (专家得花时间查证当大马再度拿着国际调查队伍给的资料 说飞机终结于南印度洋时 你们再度狂骂 说凭什麼短短一周就仓促下结论? ( 答案还是一样 专家花了时间验证 有了 update 告知 *延宕这样竟然也错??)

But I really think things went a bit overboard when some of the Chinese netizens started cursing the pregnant Fish Leong who is a Malaysian singer married to a Chinese. Would all these name calling help to find the plane?  When Malaysia presented the finding of an international investigation team and said that the plane was still up in the air as of 8am, it was scolded for “holding” information even though the authorities repeatedly explained that the experts from various countries need time to cross examine the data. When Malaysia once again presented the find of an international investigation team and said that the flight ended in the Indian Ocean, it was again scolded for “seemingly hasty conclusion” even though the authorities explained the science behind the complicated works to come to such conclusion. Either way Malaysia is lambasted.


从头到尾 没人延宕 没人隐瞒 找飞机 查证 确认的 公布 没法确认的 消息再满天飞 发言人也真的没法说些什么 - 这就是真相

子仪啊 与其花时间号召杯革 不如请你那些聪明有能的粉丝 花个三分钟了解所谓的*真相抱歉 影集以外的真相往往只能由碎片串联而成 以下只是其中一个碎片


陈坤啊,你说大马政府不尊重你同胞的生命。我只有一个问题 - 请问大马如何不尊重航班上的人命飞机是我们炸下来的吗出于人道义务 安排义工 給家属吃住 是因为不尊重生命号召26国到处搜救 皆因小国无聊 游戏一场忍着被谩骂 每天开记者会 澄清谣言 告知最新确认消息 全是因为大马不尊重受害家属???? 现在谁是受害人还不知呢!!!!


Nobody tried to delay and without any information, it is just that this incident is so unprecedented hence the investigation team would need to verify every piece of lead. If things can’t be verify, the authorities would have no choice but to say we don’t know. The truth is, nobody knows.

Ms Zhang Zi yi – please get your fans to spend some time to gain some knowledge in aviation rather than wasting time boycotting Malaysia. This is one of the helpful video they can watch to learn


Mr Chen Kun – you said the Malaysian government does not respect lives of your fellow Chinese. For your information, Malaysia did not bomb down the aircraft. So arranging volunteers and lodging for the families is a gesture of not respecting the missing passengers? If Malaysia doesn’t’ care or bother, would they go through the trouble to call on 26 countries to help? Would Malaysia bother to have the daily press conferences so that you fan will have new materials to scold them, day in day out while they busy looking for the aircraft? Please be fair. You may read this http://www.straitstimes.com/breaking-news/se-asia/story/cnns-richard-quest-defends-handling-mh370-case-malaysian-government-2014


如果这样算不尊重生命 - 那么。。。中国大大小小的案件 - 天安门事件 在全球众目睽睽之下用军用坦克碾过示威学生 - 算什么jian人命吗??????

用这种逻辑 中国政府欠中国人民 甚至全球 的真相应该也不少吧?

中国人不是有句话 说什么谣言止于智者吗看着中国媒体网民 煽风点火 火上加油的能力 大概能想象那智者的人数。

(高贵的凤凰 想同外媒一争高下 拜托花点时间做infographics just like how wsj did above 这种狗屁民调 你们还真好意思拿得出街?http://survey.ifeng.com/news/7849.html)

If by doing all these, Malaysia is being classified as not caring for the people on board, then how would you describe China govt when over their handling of the Tianmen incident?

Chinese people have a saying what the rumors stop at the wise ones. It doesn’t seem to be the case in the China internet sphere. Mainstream media like Phoenix is not helping either by coming up with sensational polling questions (Http://survey.ifeng.com/news/ 7849.html) asking what do you think of the performance of the Malaysia govt over this matter – they are only four choices: bad, lousy, incompetent and terrible.

 我绝对承认 大马政府绝对无能 如果我们真的那么厉害 就不会让一架飞机凭空消失 过了十几天还找不到理由 如果是大有能的中国 绝对肯定已经把一切铺陈好 把所谓的肇事者依法处置 and everybody shut up, just like how the yunnan train station incident was handled - swift and stern action

对不起 大马无能 造假鸡蛋的技术没有 捏造真相的能力更是大大不足

对不起 大马无能 我们的军人在睡觉 飞机过境了也不知道 如果是中国军方 东南亚渔船一入南海 驱逐舰马上出动 管你是飞在边界的商用航班 天下之大皆为我 打下了再说!

对不起 大马无能 管不住自己人的嘴 军警首脑到处乱放话 这在中国 早就枪毙了

对不起 大马无能 出动了巫师 竟然还找不到飞机如果是中国 问米 道士 风水 样样出动 就不信找不到!

大马政府绝对无能 在中国网民的想象中 如果这个不幸事件落在中国政府或者美国英国这些先进大国手里 大概一眼就能看出卫星图像的真假 商用飞机一转头 空军一号马上出动 拦截 把坏人干掉 把大家的亲人朋友都救回来

在网民的想象中 真相 一定得有坏人

大马政府无能 让千千万万在海外工作的大马子民 尤其是华人 丢脸了 一直一直对身边的中国同事朋友道歉 或者加入他们唾弃大马的议论中 仿佛我们 无能的政府谋杀了一群珍贵的中国子民

  冷静一下 想一想 大马政军警 真的如你所称 是世纪大骗子 是儈子手我没有答案给你 (in case the answer does not meet ur expectation n you accuse me of hiding the truth or being a liar) 请自己用脑想想 (that is if u have a sensible civilised brain, if you dont then sorry I cant help much)

在海外工作的大马子民们 知道你们平日对无能大马多有不满 可是在这个事件上 在你感到丢脸羞愧不断道歉以前 请扪心自问 你对这个关乎全球的事件了解多少 在很多错误的 混乱的讯息之中 我们是不是应该尽量协助厘清一些误会 而不是不分黑白一昧低头认错?

最常听到的言论之一 是大马欠家属 欠中国人 甚至全世界 一个交代 一个真相
抱歉 我看到的是 除了中国网民以外 全世界都在一起找真相 哪怕是一丁点碎片 在这个事件中没有谁欠谁 如果你硬要扯说大马隐瞒真相 我还真不明白 我们如果要造假 干嘛不干脆说是中国分离主义份子劫机 (反正机上中国人特多然后回过头苦天抢地地说中国欠我一个交代???

Chinese been saying that Malaysia is a liar and is trying to hide the truth. To be honest, if Malaysia is trying to hide the truth, we might as well say that the plane was hijacked by Chinese separatists since they were so many Chinese on board – then we can turn around to demand this demand that from the Chinese.

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給凤凰台 刘雪松 章子仪 陈坤 中国朋友(还有一些大马朋友)的一封信
我是一介大马草民, 无权无势中文不好,飞机道理也没有懂很多。飞机失踪后, 我同很多中国网民一样,看了很多BBC, CNN的追踪报道,慢慢长了不少知识,可也就那么一点点通识,知道现实同影集差距很大很大,很多事情原来不是像神探夏洛克一样,每一集都能给出一个交待;原来在这个美国可以随意监听各国首脑的时代,还真的有雷达卫星探测不到的时候。(请先别对探测到blip的大马空军开骂,看下去好吗?)
我有面书,也常上微博逛逛,可能是我年纪大了, 总是不明白为什么大家就那么爱在社交媒体上发表意见, 渲泄情绪。我总想,我的情绪如何低落,总比不上亲属朋友,我凭什么在这撒狗血闹情绪啊;这飞机也不是我的专业,总不能看了两集国家地理,就侃侃而谈-如果大家这样这样谈论着,还真能找出点蛛丝马迹,帮忙找到飞机, 我还真不介意加入。可看着看着,又不似, 社交网络上情绪奔腾的群众们,反反复复就在三个焦点上搅弄-无能大马,阴谋论,要真相。
可是 拿大马孕妇当狗骂,拿马航义工当猪骂,这能行吗? 当大马拿着国际调查队伍給的结论, 说飞机到了8时还在飞的时候 你们狂骂 说为什么*延宕* 了一周才告知? (专家得花时间查证) 当大马再度拿着国际调查队伍给的资料 说飞机终结于南印度洋时 你们再度狂骂 说凭什麼短短一周就仓促下结论? ( 答案还是一样 专家花了时间验证 有了 update 告知 不*延宕* 这样竟然也错??)
从头到尾 没人延宕 没人隐瞒 找飞机 查证 确认的 公布 没法确认的 消息再满天飞 发言人也真的没法说些什么 - 这就是真相
子仪啊 与其花时间号召杯革 不如请你那些聪明有能的粉丝 花个三分钟了解所谓的*真相* 抱歉 影集以外的真相往往只能由碎片串联而成 以下只是其中一个碎片
陈坤啊,你说大马政府不尊重你同胞的生命。我只有一个问题 - 请问大马如何不尊重航班上的人命? 飞机是我们炸下来的吗? 出于人道义务 安排义工 給家属吃住 是因为不尊重生命? 号召26国到处搜救 皆因小国无聊 游戏一场? 忍着被谩骂 每天开记者会 澄清谣言 告知最新确认消息 全是因为大马不尊重受害家属???? 现在谁是受害人还不知呢!!!!
如果这样算不尊重生命 - 那么。。。中国大大小小的案件 - 天安门事件 在全球众目睽睽之下 用军用坦克碾过示威学生 - 算什么? 草jian人命吗??????
用这种逻辑 中国政府欠中国人民 甚至全球 的真相应该也不少吧?
中国人不是有句话 说什么谣言止于智者吗? 看着中国媒体网民 煽风点火 火上加油的能力 大概能想象那智者的人数。
(高贵的凤凰 想同外媒一争高下 拜托花点时间做infographics just like how wsj did above 这种狗屁民调 你们还真好意思拿得出街?http://survey.ifeng.com/news/7849.html)
是 我绝对承认 大马政府绝对无能 如果我们真的那么厉害 就不会让一架飞机凭空消失 过了十几天还找不到理由 如果是大有能的中国 绝对肯定已经把一切铺陈好 把所谓的肇事者依法处置 and everybody shut up, just like how the yunnan train station incident was handled - swift and stern action
对不起 大马无能 造假鸡蛋的技术没有 捏造真相的能力更是大大不足
对不起 大马无能 我们的军人在睡觉 飞机过境了也不知道 如果是中国军方 东南亚渔船一入南海 驱逐舰马上出动 管你是飞在边界的商用航班 天下之大皆为我 打下了再说!
对不起 大马无能 管不住自己人的嘴 军警首脑到处乱放话 这在中国 早就枪毙了
对不起 大马无能 出动了巫师 竟然还找不到飞机? 如果是中国 问米 道士 风水 样样出动 就不信找不到!
大马政府绝对无能 在中国网民的想象中 如果这个不幸事件落在中国政府或者美国英国这些先进大国手里 大概一眼就能看出卫星图像的真假 商用飞机一转头 空军一号马上出动 拦截 把坏人干掉 把大家的亲人朋友都救回来
在网民的想象中 真相 一定得有坏人
大马政府无能 让千千万万在海外工作的大马子民 尤其是华人 丢脸了 一直一直对身边的中国同事朋友道歉 或者加入他们唾弃大马的议论中 仿佛我们 无能的政府谋杀了一群珍贵的中国子民
真 的 吗? 冷静一下 想一想 大马政军警 真的如你所称 是世纪大骗子 是儈子手? 我没有答案给你 (in case the answer does not meet ur expectation n you accuse me of hiding the truth or being a liar) 请自己用脑想想 (that is if u have a sensible civilised brain, if you dont then sorry I cant help much)
在海外工作的大马子民们 知道你们平日对无能大马多有不满 可是在这个事件上 在你感到丢脸羞愧不断道歉以前 请扪心自问 你对这个关乎全球的事件了解多少 在很多错误的 混乱的讯息之中 我们是不是应该尽量协助厘清一些误会 而不是不分黑白一昧低头认错?
最常听到的言论之一 是大马欠家属 欠中国人 甚至全世界 一个交代 一个真相
像楼下这位大哥
大哥 抱歉 我看到的是 除了中国网民以外 全世界都在一起找真相 哪怕是一丁点碎片 在这个事件中 没有谁欠谁 如果你硬要扯说大马隐瞒真相 我还真不明白 我们如果要造假 干嘛不干脆说是中国分离主义份子劫机 (反正机上中国人特多) 然后回过头苦天抢地地说中国欠我一个交代???
马来西亚政府,你伤害了整个世界!
作者:刘雪松
等待了17天,239条生命,就这样在马来西亚政府的嘴里,化成尘埃,落定在一个连他们自己都不能确定的南印度洋海域。
(The announcement was made by malaysia because MAS is a malaysia aircraft. It is not solely decided by malaysia ok? There is an international investigation team behind the incident. Investigation on aviation incident does not go by malaysia laws, it goes by international standards ok? Watch this before u write please
http://live.wsj.com/video/flight-370-how-pings-revealed-the-flight-path/991D6CB0-852F-4D44-9B44-6107093815EC.html)
没有残骸,没有黑匣子,甚至没有具体的经纬度。马来西亚政府在自己认为“必须告知”的时候,很沉着很笃定地告诉全世界,他们那架原本飞向中国北京的飞机,坠毁在了南印度洋。他们面对全世界发布这条消息时,就像一个孩子告诉大人弄丢了一件玩具。几百个家庭的命运,全世界的情绪,由马来西亚政府说了算。这是人类航空史上的奇耻大辱。
(这是人类航空历史上至今最诡异的事件 调查人员 主事国大马 帮忙的26国都很忙 没人有空操弄情绪 看来比较有空的是你
http://www.straitstimes.com/breaking-news/se-asia/story/cnns-richard-quest-defends-handling-mh370-case-malaysian-government-2014)
17天,全世界大海捞针时,小小岛国的马来西亚政府,像在下一盘史上最大的棋。239条生命不知在哪条航线随风飘零的时候,全世界以为发生了空难,你们说只是失联。全世界以为劫机的时候,你们说没有迹象。你们很无辜地一问三不知,却能突然告诉世界,有一位或以上拥有资深飞行经验的人员劫持了失联客机。
全世界都在越南海域搜寻的时候,你们能准确地说出航班曾做过空中折返。你们肯定地说最后一次联络是在凌晨一两点,又肯定地说航班最后一次与卫星联络是在早上的8时11分。所有人以为机上的人们死了的时候,你们说应该还活着。所有的人以为机上的人是不是活在某个岛上的时候,你们毫不犹豫地否定这个美好期待存在的可能性。全世界寻找生命的时候,你们在寻找理由。全世界在寻找真相的时候,你们在寻找借口。全世界在找数据的时候,你们在找巫师。全世界在祈祷的时候,你们相信数据了。可是,这个世界只有你们知道飞机还在空中飞行的时候,你们在干吗?各国舰船与苦逼的越南兄弟在南海一次次搜寻无果,等待着你们提供进一步信息的时候,你们在干吗?中国十几颗卫星付出高昂的代价变轨的时候,你们在干吗?你把全世界赶来救援的舰船凭空指向马六甲海峡的时候,你们在干吗?你们在笃笃定定地肯定、否定,再肯定、再否定。你们知道,面对哪怕还有一线希望的生命,这时候你们说在东,我们肯定会朝东。你们说在西,我们肯定往西。你们把全世界对于239条性命生的希望一次次点燃、扑灭,再点燃、再扑灭。我们在找飞机,你在找时机。你们把别人不知情的徒劳,当成一种风景,就像一匹装着迷途的老马,看脚下搜寻生命的人们,如同热锅上的蚂蚁。你们揣着真真假假的信息,像揣着弥天的一个谎言。你们看别国船来舰往,看别人眼泪纵横,丝毫不觉得内疚,丝毫不觉得羞耻。你们今天的“必须告知”,是不是小看了全世界对于239条生命不离不弃的珍重?是不是随着真相的步步逼进,怀揣着某个秘密已经难圆自说?是不是以为给出这个拖了17天的结果,人们可以打道回府点烛认命?马来西亚政府,今天你错了。你错判了作为一国政府应有的国际担当,错判了政治手腕对于生命应有的敬畏,错判了包括所有中国人在内的世界公民对于真相追求的执着。17天,你失去的不仅是239条生命可能被挽回的机会,还有全世界对于一个国家政府的基本信任。你将真相沉入世人无处搜寻的海底,你就欠下了154名中国公民必须死要见尸的明白,欠下了对13亿中国人一个必须告知的实情,欠下了对239条生命必须明确的一个交待。那一天,你耍了一个心眼,丢了239条生命。17天,你为了一个“机密”,丢了全世界对一个国度的信任。你把真相与人道,统统欠给了这个世界。你可以迷恋你政府的权力,但你没有权力将全世界寻求的这个真相消失,因为,你没有权力让这趟航班上任何一条无辜的生命,在魂归的路上迷失。即便真的无人幸存,我们不急着流泪,也不急着点燃其实早就准备好了的蜡烛。因为,真相比眼泪重要,尊严比煽情重要。把真相交出来。你没有权力把全世界的感情玩够了,告诉全世界早就预料到了的这个结果。239条生命,没理由为你怀揣着的这个秘密做陪葬。你们必须为自己的愚蠢,付出应有的权力代价。你们耍弄着手中的权力,戏弄了239条生命,你们伤害了整个世界。

33 comments:

  1. 你这是越描越乱。中国政府欠中国人民,造假鸡蛋的技术,捏造真相的能力等等跟本不能放在一起讲。这是中国政府的内政,由不到你批评或拿来做比较。就拿大马的贪污,不平等事等等。中国有批评吗?不要用‘踩过界’的比较。

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    1. All, why Chinese is allowed in here? TT, RD, IT and others silence means okay to learn and use as second language

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    2. Anon 21:57,

      This only show one thing , how rude (biadap) Chinese Malaysia I /C holders are , their transparent attitude is clearly shown hear .
      It's, commonly does happened in our daily life , a Chinese that you may called friends will speak mandrin to another Chinese ,though you might be sitting at one table .
      Malay are very tolerance species indeed .

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    3. Greek to me.

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    4. 21.57 Must all eat the same food ad you? Simply you do not have the tolerance.

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    5. Tebing Tinggi you sure Malay are very tolerant species? So why every time keep on calling for May 13, torch churches, drag cow head in to Hindu temple and racism! So your Melayu not biadap!???

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  2. now they are planning to boycott Malaysian products? are they stupid or what?

    if they really proceed with the mega boycott. so the businessmen will lose million or billion of profits..most of them are dap hardcore supporters anyway..hehe

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    1. Yes and maybe at last the DAP supporters will realise they are Malaysians first.

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    2. Good proceed with your boycotting agenda towards Malaysian goods. See who wil be suffering most!

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    3. I live in the US and I always make sure I don't buy products made in China as they are always of low quality. There are many recalls of Chinese products such as children toys, baby formula, car seats, cots etc because of safety issues. The Chinese are cheaters and cheapskates!

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    4. Go and tell prc not to visit USA, here and dont use their produce since u r mature

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    5. No more Zhang Yi? film for me.

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  3. Meaning they dont know what redha is all about...come on, 26 nations been searching.....and still searching...so shut up and wait.

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  4. Also for the male species in Malaysia, please boycot the china dolls.....

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    1. Who actually have been importing China dolls into Malaysia? Have to ask DAPigs for that and also Anwar Aljuburi for 'tasting the product'!

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    2. Government tidor like sulus coming in

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  5. Words of solace from a wise Chinese man . . . . .

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB2D0l-QY8w

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  6. I give an "F" for the translation. And a "- F" for the essay.

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    1. Try explain in Chinese why you think the essay is an -F. Otherwise I will just categorise you as an arrogant illiterate banana Chinese who pretends to be smart but actually an idiot.

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    2. anon 19:16

      Kasi telang itu no 1 punya komen juga loo , macam sendili tulik sedili baca ma aa , ini macam tulik itu singapor olang pon tatak bolik baca loo o.
      Annie ! , ini Malaysia lea a.

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    3. AH SO! ah big ah boss ah mandarin from F-ing association?

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  7. I don't understand what the post is about. Perhaps from poor translation.

    Is the person trying to get on the bandwagon of bashing Malaysia or is the person trying to talk some sense to the hysterical Chinese?

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    1. Its just google translated. My Chinese is not good enough to translate it properly. The author was actually telling those who whacked Malaysia , over the MH370 tragedy to go jump off a cliff.

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    2. The crazy whackers should gear up properly, make their hearts sound and minds straight, before they do so .....

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2xmAWS4akE

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  8. http://mag.sinchew-i.com/bintang/

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  9. http://opinions.sinchew.com.my/node/32101#.UzQy1lsAhpw.facebook

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  10. I'm in NZ now. Even the NZ press are sympathetic to the rescue team. They know how difficult it is to search at the turbulent ocean. They did mentioned that the pilot and co-pilot are under investigation for the unexplained route deviation..

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  11. funny thing is..the chinese families went berserk when najib made the statements..they said they want proof. they are alive until proven otherwise..the Malaysia goverment is cheating...hiding facts...they didnt accept whatever Malaysia is providing...even to the extent of cursing and boycotting Malaysians and Malaysian products..bla bla bla

    but when it comes to receiving compensation and insurance payment..they suddenly keep quiet. now they already accept what Malaysia government have been saying all this while?

    based on their stands and principles, they supposed to wait for the proof and should not take the compensation or insurance payout whatsoever dont they?

    now we should know that MONEY really talks..once they get the money..then they come back to their sense and behave well..hehe

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    1. .... and that's not the whole truth about their consciousness but it certainly speaks volumes for the power of materialism over the human mind. Heart truths are much harder to find these days.

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    2. Agree with you. Umno government stupid. Give money to them straight and silence them. You also get 10% like razak

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  12. http://tieba.baidu.com/f/q---C7DBB7D6FF896331D7A1271B98DDF548--2-3-0--/img?z=2919502082&src=http%3A%2F%2Fimgsrc.baidu.com%2Fforum%2Fpic%2Fitem%2F5d04dc1fbe096b631cc6bde80e338744eaf8ac6a.jpg&imgsize=1

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  13. If you think that Anwar is 'clean', please read this:-

    http://socialistmalaysia.tripod.com/oldstuff/news0812.html

    Don't worry, the article above does not mention his sexual preference.

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