Some went to my last posting about Dr Mahathir and Proton X70, which has nothing to do with Lynas, and started to bitch about that letter.
Ya, they did that despite claiming that they were tired of me writing about the Lynas issue which they said is outdated and boring.
The letter was quite long but basically, Yeo Bee Yin was telling the Lynas workers that she is sweet, nice and cares for them and that if they lose their job, it's because the Lynas management refused to take care of the residue of their plant in Gebeng Kuantan due to greed.
The Pakatan people were really lapping it up.
Especially, the part where Yeo Bee Yin said the amount of residue was so dangerously huge and that Lynas had promised to ship it to Australia.
Well, I don't actually want to write too much about it because I know the Pakatan trolls will just turn around and say I'm spinning (maybe even racial spinning too :).
So, since it's about the residue, lets look at what the Lynas review committee, which was set up by the Pakatan government and expert members appointed by Yeo Bee Yin herself, has to say about it.
This is from page 57 of the committee's report;
So how? Okay or not.
For the residue, got words such as "dikendalikan dengan sempurna" and "menunjukan hasil yang positif dan berpotensi untuk dikomersialkan".
The committee - (again I repeat) set-up by Pakatan government and members appointed by Yeo Bee Yin - said Lynas was doing exactly what they were told to do by the authorities and there was no danger from the residue of the plant. In fact the residue could even be turned into useful stuff.
The committee - (again I repeat) set-up by Pakatan government and members appointed by Yeo Bee Yin - went to the plant to check things out (properly I believe) and came out with the report, but of course Yeo Bee Yin, who has never been to (and refused to visit) the plant doesn't like it and made her own conclusions to suit her political agenda.
Yup instead of considering the committee's report, she straight goes to "you ship out the residue or we'll shut you down" and "you refuse to ship out the residue because you are greedy money grabbing bastards".
For the answer, read this previous post of mine again, okay;
Why Yeo Bee Yin and gang want to close down Lynas
Anyway, for the part where she said she cares for the Lynas workers.....this one I have to laugh, okay.
She never even wants to see them.
Yes, Lynas invited her multiple times to visit the plant in Gebeng, Kuantan to check the place herself and also meet the workers there.
You know, any caring minister would have accepted the invitation. After all, the livelihood of hundreds of workers is at stake here and the welfare of their families will be affected.
But no....she didn't want to go. For her, Lynas and everyone associated with it are enemies. That's the DAP mentality as I understand it.
That's how she sees them from the start.
And when she sent in the committee, which members she herself appointed to check on the plant, she refused to follow its findings and recommendations, which didn't point towards the closure of those people's workplace.
Seriously, you all think she cares about those workers losing their job and finding it difficult to support their families. Think again. They are not even her type of people.
She tried to sound nice in the letter merely because that's the expected public relation exercise.
To me, she just sounds condescending.
If she is really sincere about those Lynas people, she should at least visit their work place, meet them and get to know them.
Then she would know that there are among those people whose livelihood she was tyring to take away for her political agenda, individuals such as a single mother who is rising seven children on her own, a man who lost his leg in an accident and given a job by Lynas at its office and a girl from one of the villages near the plant whose education was financed by the company since she was in school and later given a job there so that she could support her poor family.
There are many more such individuals working for Lynas and the orang kampung near the plant who support the existence of the Lynas plant there because it benefits their community. Yeo Bee Yin should meet and talk to them.
Those are real people, I'm talking about, okay.
Then again, I believe Yeo Bee Yin sees them as mere statistics that not worth her time to meet.
All that she cares for is the political mileage to be gain by shutting down those people's workplace.
And when she said in the letter that she is in Poland, I really laughed aloud.
Biodiversity conference or something....err, Yeo Bee Yin, you didn't tell people ka your own state of Johor got three Ramsar sites in danger?
Yeo Bee Yin, you stay there so long ka?
All those past months you can't see them? Why? So busy is it?
Hey Yeo Bee Yin, you are taking away their livelihood and causing them and their family to suffer and you didn't even bother to check on them.
That's not nice okay.
UPDATES at 08:23 Dec 15 2018
Lynas refutes minister further
KUALA LUMPUR – December 14, 2018: Lynas Corporation Ltd. has clarified that the letters of undertaking concerning the removal of its residue that it signed in 2012 requires the company to first find out if the residue can be recycled.
If that fails, Lynas must then store the residue in a permanent depository facility (PDF), failing which the residue must be taken out of Malaysia, explained the company in a statement today following a claim that the letters were proof of Lynas’ non-compliance.
“The letter signed by the then Lynas executive chairman on February 23, 2012, explicitly states that Lynas Corporation Australia hereby gives a full undertaking to, if necessary, remove from Malaysia all wastes generated by the Lynas Advance Material Plant in Gebeng, Kuantan, during the temporary operating licence’s (TOL) period,” says the statement.
The Atomic Energy Licensing Board had issued three consecutive operating licences to Lynas — the September 2012 to September 2014 TOL, and the September 2014 to September 2016 and September 2016 to September 2019 full operating licences.
The issue of residue-removal non-compliance was highlighted by Energy, Science, Technology, Environment and Climate Change Minister Yeo Bee Yin yesterday when she questioned the commitment of Lynas to remove its residue from Malaysia.
While Yeo claimed that it would only cost Lynas about 10 per cent of its earnings to export the residue, the company retorted that her figures were inaccurate and that she misquoted the analysts who Yeo based her arguments from.
“The analyst also referenced Lynas’ security deposit paid to the Malaysian government’s AELB (not insurance) which had, as one of its purposes, the establishment of a permanent deposit facility.
“In reaching his view, the analyst had assumed that this deposit would be used to pay for some of the cost of exporting the WLP (Lynas’ residue), on the basis that a permanent deposit facility would no longer be required,” states Lynas.
The company’s latest tangle with the ministry happened after the latter ordered it to export its WLP residue which contradicts an independent review committee’s recommendation that the residue be permanently stored in a PDF, which it is currently working on.
In the review from the committee formed by the ministry, Lynas earned a favourable verdict and was vindicated from any malpractice but yet the ministry made decisions contradicting the committee’s findings and recommendations, something which Lynas finds most inappropriate.
"Those are real people, I'm talking about, okay".
Annie, why are you not concerned that Najib and the UMNO thieves have looted the country through corruption and financial scandals after scandals? The rakyat have suffered because of all these corruption and the rakyat are also real people.
Tun Dr M is a complete genius.Delete
He already was making overtures to East Malaysia.
Then he allowed the anti-ICERD rally to proceed.
Allowed all the macai bloggers to scream loudly about Malay rights and unifying PAS and UMNO.
And that made all the East Malaysians say "Yuk...I'm out of here."
Zahid kind of forgot that PAS is like Lynas over in Sabah & Sarawak.
Nobody wants to touch it.
Master strategy by the handsome old man.
His enemies will be pushed back into 2 East Coast states, he will control the rest of Malaysia.
Yes I agree with this. RM40 billion siphoned and until today no comment. So lack of sincerity. On Lynas issue the risk of flooding in Kuantan makes it imperative that the company eithet clears the debris or is shutdown. Potential contamination of water table. This Lynas thing has affected Kuantan reputation. Agree with Minister on this one.Delete
Six more UMNO MPs have left UMNO today.ReplyDelete
They are Datuk Seri Hamzah Zainuddin (Larut), Datuk Seri Ikmal Hisham Abdul Aziz (Tanah Merah), Datuk Mohamad Fasiah Mohd Fakeh (Sabak Bernam), Datuk Rosol Wahid (Hulu Terengganu) Datuk Seri Dr Abdul Latiff Ahmad (Mersing) and Tasik Gelugor MP Datuk Shahbudin Yahya.
Why aren't Annie and her fellow neutral bloggers doing anything to stop UMNO's haemorrhaging?
"Why aren't Annie and her fellow neutral bloggers doing anything to stop UMNO's haemorrhaging?"Delete
Annie's papa-san is suddenly sucking up to Tun, after whacking him hundreds of times on Najib's behalf.
These guys are cool.
Just follow the dedak.
They used Jibby while the sun was shining, now just switch camps again lah.
hey annie you are not writing about dumbo implosion where 3,000,000 macai + dependants will suffer sighReplyDelete
About half the grassroots in UMNO Sabah have quit already.Delete
It's dead there.
Wait for 32 more MPs to leave Umno, and the same will happen in the Peninsula.
Also expect the fallout from the Zahid-Hadi rally to backfire on PAS.Delete
It hit Sabah very hard:
"The recent anti-ICERD rally which saw Umno and PAS joining hands and blaring slogans of race and religion has made Umno leaders in Sabah quit the party. This must be the straw that broke the camel’s back. Sabahans have all this while abhorred racial and religious politics. Thirty-six elected representatives, senators and division heads in Sabah made the decision to leave Umno, shattering the party in the state which was established in 1991. This unprecedented exodus from Umno, and the prospect of more leaving the wrecked party soon, will further entrench Pakatan Harapan’s (PH) position as the ruling coalition.
Sabah Umno felt that it was unpalatable for the Umno leadership to have closer ties with conservative groups as well as PAS. To put it bluntly, Sabah Umno does not like PAS or the right-wing groups in the party playing the race and religion cards in politics. To Sabah and Sarawak, PAS is definitely not Malaysian and will never fit in the aspirations of the people in those states."
It seems now that even PAS MPs are meeting Tun.
I am not surprised.
If Hadi thinks that being on stage with Najib (39 charges) and Zahid (46 charges) will sit well with the PAS grassroots, he's mistaken.
There's zero chance of PAS making a comeback in the West coast unless Hadi is replaced with a leader who keeps Umno at arm's length.
That is assuming....
....there is still an Umno left.
"So how? Okay or not. For the residue, got words such as "dikendalikan dengan sempurna" and "menunjukan hasil yang positif dan berpotensi untuk dikomersialkan".ReplyDelete
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!
Ah, Annie, Annie.
The reason your paymasters will never get back into power is quite simple.
They - and you - think people are stupid.
So the 41 different excuses given by Umgnok for the 2.6 billion donation (to take one example) - a child of 10 would be able to see they are bullshit.
Your choice of two random phrases from the Lynas report, taken out of context, is almost as bad.
Let's do this step by step, shall we?
"So how? Okay or not" pulak...sigh...
To be fair, you should have reproduced the letter to allow readers to judge.ReplyDelete
Here, I've done it for you...
"On the ministry’s decision announced last week, I would like to clarify with you the following:
There is continuous accumulation of the two primary residues at the Lynas Advanced Materials Plan (LAMP) site namely, Water Leached Purification Residue (WLP) totalling 451,564 metric tonnes and Neutralization Underflow Residue (NUF) totalling 1.113 million metric tonnes. (I think you would have seen the “hills” of residue accumulated at LAMP.)
As of now, there is no viable near-term solution to manage the accumulated residue, which is stored at the open landfill temporary site.
The risks to the surrounding communities and environment increase with the increasing amount of accumulated residue as it is exposed to the threat of natural disasters such as major flooding.
Your employer has twice made the commitment to the government of Malaysia to remove waste from Malaysia. If you have not seen this, attached are the letters of undertaking written by Lynas Corporation Ltd, Australia (Lynas Australia) and Lynas Malaysia Sdn. Bhd (Lynas Malaysia) dated February 23, 2012, and March 6, 2012, respectively, indicating their commitment to removing LAMP residue from Malaysia, if necessary. Considering the risk of the residue accumulation, it is now “necessary” to do that.
What’s the cost for Lynas to remove the waste out from Malaysia? Australian Financial Review reported the following:
“CLSA analyst Dylan Kelly said in a note to clients that the cost of transporting the waste back to Australia was estimated to be US$60 million, but said insurance would cover about US$46 million of that. The balance of about US$14 million would represent about 10 percent of the earnings before interest, tax, depreciation and amortisation of US$129 million that Lynas recorded in 2017-18.”
I really hope you can put things into perspective according to these figures - it only takes 10 percent of Lynas earnings of one year to send out waste that has been accumulated in Malaysia for six years.
Even after the ministry sets the requirement of WLP waste removal from Malaysia, brokers like UBS and CLSA still kept their recommendations “buy” on Lynas stock. UBS even set US$3.10 price target on the stock, which is nearly double the current share price."
What these show you is that the whole drama the Lynas management is trying to stage – the myriad of paid advertorials in all major newspapers, the press conferences that paint a bad picture of the ministry and so on, eventually boils down to this: to protect the company by not honouring the commitment made. As a minister, my job on the other hand, is to protect the public interest and people of Malaysia.
I would like you to know that I did not ask more than what your employer had committed back in 2012. Therefore, it is my hope that Lynas will honour their words and start the process of shipping out WLP residues from Malaysia.
I hope this decision also sends a message to the next generation that this generation of Malaysians is doing the best we can to leave the country a better place for them to live in."
OK? That's what she said.
Now let's go back to the Lynas report...
You forgot to put the condescending part of Yeo Bee Yin's letter :)Delete
"Then she would know that there are among those people whose livelihood she was trying to take away for her political agenda, individuals such as a single mother who is rising seven children on her own, a man who lost his leg in an accident and given a job by Lynas at its office and a girl from one of the villages near the plant whose education was financed by the company since she was in school and later given a job there so that she could support her poor family."Delete
Really, really sad that Lynas won't save its staff by simple compliance with the stuff it should have done six years ago : )
Let me make it simple.
A truck driver is pulled over by MOT.
The Ministry says, "your brakes are defective, please replace XYZ to make them safe".
The truck driver ignores these instructions for 6 years.
The truck driver runs over and kills a family.
Who is at fault?
Not the ministry, the truck driver.
"65. Pengurusan residu LAMP yang dilaksanakan oleh LPTA adalah selaras dengan syarat MIDA sebagaimana yang ditetapkan dalam syarat lesen iaitu:
i. pengitaran semula buangan tersebut; atau
ii. pelupusan buangan di fasiliti pelupusan kekal (permanent disposal
iii. mengeksport keluar residu ke negara asal."
Those were the 3 options under which the licence was granted.
a) The recycle option was a complete failure despite the claims made in advance by Lynas. That is WHY there is now a stockpile many thousands of times in excess of the limits.
Need me to explain this "recycling" further? Boleh!
b) The "dikendalikan dengan sempurna" which you quoted refers to the RSF, i.e. the on-site waste dump. This is NOT the PDF (permanent disposal facilities) that is required. A PDF - as the name suggests - it a safe way of containing waste. An RDF is just an onsite holding area. NOT what they were told to do.
c) Export - like Yeo says, it takes 10% of Lynas's money to remove this mountain of dangerous crap from Malaysia. So do it, lah.
If Lynas wants to save the jobs of its workers, the path is clear.
They have 3 ways to do so.
What are they waiting for?
The review committee members, who were appointed by Yeo Bee Yin visited the plant (which Yeo Bee Yin refused to visit) and saw the "mountain of dangerous crap" and checked on it and said the Lynas operation is safe. Eerrr....how come?Delete
Hence the 3 directives to deal with the waste, which Lynas should have complied with years ago.
The big reveal in Yeo's letter is this para:ReplyDelete
"Your employer has twice made the commitment to the government of Malaysia to remove waste from Malaysia. If you have not seen this, attached are the letters of undertaking written by Lynas Corporation Ltd, Australia (Lynas Australia) and Lynas Malaysia Sdn. Bhd (Lynas Malaysia) dated February 23, 2012, and March 6, 2012, respectively, indicating their commitment to removing LAMP residue from Malaysia, if necessary. Considering the risk of the residue accumulation, it is now “necessary” to do that."
That needs some explanation.
Why did Lynas promise TWICE to the Najib govt to remove the waste?
Why was it not enforced?
Who had the "kabel" to make people look the other way?
I suspect that we are going to see another mega-scandal revealed, the deeper it's probed.
Read the updates part of the post.Delete
I knew I would have to do this.
a) These matsals have been lying through their ass literally from day one.
b) They happily claimed "don't worry, we will recycle 100% of our waste, so need for that expensive PDF or export, you brown-skinned idiots just relax, OK?"
c) This was a lie.
d) Since 2012 - close to 7 years ago - Lynas has achieved almost zero recycling, DESPITE claiming that by 2015 it would be full commercialisation and recycling of residues and there was no need for PDF (yes, correct - these fuckers are just trying to save money.)
e) Lynas claimed the 100% recycling would be for plaster board and cement manufacturing, road base, fertilizers, and soil remediation. None of this came true. They "invented" one soil enhancer that uses very little of the most dangerous residue, WLP.
f) These "advanced" (konon) matsals even subbed out the R&D to UKM to try and find a solution. In 2014, an experiment to extract radioactive thorium from the most dangerous residue, WLP, proved to be impossible. However, the experiment did reveal that the radioactivity of WLP was much higher than that declared earlier by Lynas. Whoops, backfire lah.
g) The Lynas report was very fair and objective, and quoted many different bodies.
h) In Malaysia, waste is classified legally into various categories. Because WLP has a radioactivity of 7.98 Bq/g, it is classified as hazardous. Hence (AGAIN), all the shit that Lynas produces MUST be removed OR stored in a PDF. And they have known that from Day One.
i) Legally you can accumulate 20 metric tonnes of such waste for a limit of 180 days.
Lynas has accumulated....
451,564 tonnes - Water Leached Purification (WLP) Residue
Neutralization Underflow Residue - 1.113 million metric tonnes
j) If the matsals are right and they promised to 100% recycle by 2015 or ship the waste out, why are there vast mountains of the crap still threatening the safety of Pahang residents?
k) Why are Umno bloggers trying to endanger us and save money for Lynas? Which crony has shares in Lynas? Can the bloggers be more honest than these lying matsals?
l) Now these lying matsals are being made to fulfil promises broken in 2012 and 2015, it's THEIR fault if anyone loses their job.
If the huge quantity of residue is so dangerous and Lynas had breached the law, why didn't the experts of the review committee, who were appointed by Yeo Bee Yin didn't recommend for the Lynas plant to be shut down and the company penalised?
"If the huge quantity of residue is so dangerous and Lynas had breached the law, why didn't the experts of the review committee, who were appointed by Yeo Bee Yin didn't recommend for the Lynas plant to be shut down and the company penalised?"Delete
That is the whole point.
In my view, they are being TOO lenient with these people.
The fact is, Lynas was given a clear path to compliance since 2012.
It failed, lied, postponed.
Again and again.
If I'm the Minister, I WOULD recommend for the Lynas plant to be shut down, simply because these mat sallehs think they can just ignore directives.
Instead, they have now been given 3 chances to survive.
If they don't take them...
...they can blame themselves.
If the workers lose their jobs...
...blame the Lynas management.
Really, they think we brownskins are stupid.
Hahaha...and they said I spinned things.Delete
Annie, Annie, Annie...
A responsible minister should go and visit the place herself so she could see for herself. I heard she was invited at least 9 times but no response.ReplyDelete
Where has PokPek CutPaste Parrot gone?ReplyDelete
Down to 37/222 in one day????
PokPek Nanu Nan, Umno boleh tutup kedai O!
Jantung Pribumi pasti bergelora, hati2 satni pakat sakit jantung pulak? Katak2 ni klo masuk Pribumi, golongan grp veteran akn jadi majoriti.. pakat dok luku kepala yang 12+1 pulak.. tst tst tst
Kan sll sya habaq, 12+1/222 bagaikan harimau takde gigi, sekadar kuat meraung Grrrrrr aje. Terpaksa jilat air lioq basi kutip le katak2 dari UMNO.. kekekeke
Layan elok2 tau, merajuk satni dah lompat pi tang lain pula.
Haiya kesian DAP. Tengah syiok, katak2 mai kacau daun mereka..
Professor Nasi Lemak
Poor Nasi Dedak.
Say sayonara to your dedak soon, bro....
Happy New Year : )
Prof Nasi Lemak,Delete
Betul tu. Sekarang kau sudah tak ada dedak nak makan lagi, lebih baik balik jual nasi lemak je.
Tak lama, UMNO pun tinggal satu dua ekor saja...senang bagi mu untuk bilang 1,2,3 macam A,B,C. kahkahkah
Nice one Annie.Taruk kaw kaw...Been smiling reading this.I am sure some DAP troopers sudah telinga panas and itching to bash you up.Take care Annie.ReplyDelete
Not really, the DAP fellas just like almost everyone else just sitting down chilling and sipping coffee and watch the whole UMNO implodes and Zahid putting out fires everywhere. Am sure that's why you are still smiling :)
australia recognised west jerusalem as israeli capital, takde BN solidariti utk palestin - aussie (incl lynas) berambus muakakaka
I found Yeo's letter on Malaysiakini.
From what I can tell, she is just asking Lynas to honour its agreement to ship the waste out of Malaysia.
But you pointed out that the waste can be commercialised.
If so, why isn't Lynas commercialising it and selling it, thereby reducing the waste stockpile?
Is nobody interested in whatever commercial product from that waste?
As for any displaced employees from Lynas, it will be tough to address this.
On the one hand, we should not just be throwing ppl out on the streets, but on the other, we cannot allow, what is believed to be an unsafe Lynas plant to keep operating.
Lynas has claimed that its plant meets the highest standards of safety - domestically and internationally.
I think this is the angle which Lynas should continue to work on.
Not only should Lynas just use glitzy marketing to sell the safety message but it may want to organise public tours, maybe publish daily safety reports like sample testing results, provide monthly updates, etc etc.
Lynas needs to, somehow, overcome the fear which ppl have of radiation poisoning from its operations.
It is no good for Lynas to just try to convince the Minister how safe the plant is.
Lynas has to also convince the man-in-the-street as well.
Why invited just the Minister?
Invite us, the normal every day Malaysian, who are afraid.
When we, normal every day Malaysians, are afraid, the Minister had better be afraid as well, becos we can sack the Minister at the next GE.
I desperately want Lynas to remain open because it has a unique niche in the market place and can bring in lots of badly needed money to the Malaysian economy.
But I also want it to be done properly.
- Yeo Bee Yin just wants to close down Lynas no matter what. Period.Delete
- I didn't point out that the residue can be commercialised. It's the review committee members appointed by Yeo Bee Yin who said that in their report.
- The committee members also said the plant is safe yet Yeo Bee Yin still want to throw people out on the street because of her political interest.
- The plant is monitored by at least four agencies with samples taken on monthly basis. Go and check on this if you don't believe me. That's why the committee, appointed by Yeo Bee Yin, based on the monitoring agencies' findings said that Lynas is safe.
- Lynas invited everyone to visit the plant. Go and check with them. But of course when you visit any industrial plant you have to adhere to the safety protocols.
"But you pointed out that the waste can be commercialised.Delete
If so, why isn't Lynas commercialising it and selling it, thereby reducing the waste stockpile?"
They promised to from Day One.
Since 2012 - close to 7 years ago - Lynas has achieved almost zero recycling, DESPITE claiming that by 2015 it would be full residue commercialisation and recycling of residues and there was no need for a Permanent Disposal Facility.
Lynas claimed the 100% recycling would be for plaster board and cement manufacturing, road base, fertilizers, and soil remediation.
None of this came true.
I repeat: THEY said this would be FULLY done by 2015.
Legally you can accumulate 20 metric tonnes of such waste for a limit of 180 days.
Lynas has accumulated....
451,564 tonnes - Water Leached Purification (WLP) Residue
Neutralization Underflow Residue - 1.113 million metric tonnes
Legal limit - 20 tonnes
Lynas - 450,000 tonnes of WLP - unprocessed and emitting radiation of 7.98 Bq/g.
So the mat sallehs can make more profit by not exporting and not building a PDF.
Beautiful, isn't it : )
yeah Dr M want to close down dumbo no matter what period & annie is not protesting adoiDelete
she has to some how do some "barkings" to let known she is not "mute"!!! else she may receive some "rare earths oxides" at her community centres like her colleagues who can start processing free cooking oils for own use from the "palm fruits brunches" MCA youth is gifting to her community centre in Seputih!!!!Delete
"The committee members also said the plant is safe yet Yeo Bee Yin still want to throw people out on the street because of her political interest"
This must be one of the stupidiest statements from Annie. Shutting down Lynas means a loss of precious tax revenue for the government.
That's why Najib put profits before people's health and safety.
If the huge quantity of residue is so dangerous and Lynas had breached the law, why didn't the experts of the review committee, who were appointed by Yeo Bee Yin didn't recommend for the Lynas plant to be shut down and the company penalised?
already told you annie!!! just putting up a show. LYNAS will still be there even after PH do not bungkus in GE15. she got advance enginnering degree.she understand her game with Fauzia. probably "loud barking" for LYNAS to follow more compliance. i not going to be surprised probably LYNAS 2 in Penang!!!!Delete
//Yeo Bee Yin just wants to close down Lynas no matter what.//
Yeo is doing nothing but acting on the will of the people.
Yes, she will gain politically if she obeys the will of the people but, first she must act on behalf of the people.
And a large proportion of the people want Lynas closed because of ignorance and fear.
// I didn't point out that the residue can be commercialised//
OK lah, so how about saying that you pointed out that the review committee said the waste could be commercialised? :)
You did make it clear in your previous artivle and I guess it was my fault for not being clear.
Regardless, it begs the question why isn't the waste being commercialised??
Yeo Bee Yin still want to throw people out on the street because of her political interest.//
Or maybe becos the review committee report was relying on old data, the waste has not been commercialised, the PDF is not built, etc etc??
//The plant is monitored by at least four agencies with samples taken on monthly basis. Go and check on this if you don't believe me.//
Firstly, I feel a monthly check is grossly inadequate.
I think that an absolute minimum is a daily chk. I am even thinking hrly chks may be necessary for some processes.
I dont believe that for something like this, any good scientist would consider monthly checks to be enough to make any meaningful short-term conclusions.
As for checking on the sample readings taken by the various govt agencies, I am sorry I was simply not good enough to find out where they are published.
//Lynas invited everyone to visit the plant. //
Lynas offers public tours??
I didn't know that and I don't think many Malaysians know that either.
Perhaps Lynas should promote such public tours a bit more??
I'll ask around in my kampung if they have heard of such public tours offered by Lynas.
Ppl in my kampung loooove touring.
Adhering to safety protocols is bleeding obvious to you and me, but yes, some Malaysians tend to think they can do anything they like.
But then ensuring safety protocols are kept is where Lynas can shine and give themselves a good name.
Anon 19: 27ReplyDelete
"Where has PokPek CutPaste Parrot gone?"
Everyone is counting down to 2019 but Prof Pokpek is counting down UMNO from 52 to 22 to 2.
Oh Wait, Pokpek could also be jumping ship and probably gone straight into the sea.
"Some went to my last posting about Dr Mahathir and Proton X70, which has nothing to do with Lynas, and started to bitch about that letter"ReplyDelete
For heaven sake annie!!!! Lynas is hs something to do with Proton X70. rare earth compounds are important to every productions of Proton X70. also important for iPhones!!!!
without rare earth compouds almost every elctronics, motor vehicles. transpotaions is impossible!!!!
"A group of NGOs have come out in support of besieged Umno president Ahmad Zahid Hamidi, urging him to crack down on those trying to oust him.
"We urge the Umno president to take disciplinary action or sack Umno members who threaten the Umno leadership which is elected by Umno members.
"We hope that the Umno president will not entertain the words of leaders who have quit Umno," said Pertubuhan Sahabat Ulul Amri Malaysia president Syed Muhammad Imran Syed Abdul Aziz, whose statement was endorsed by 29 other NGOs."
This is about the worst possible advice.
They need to let Zahid go, ASAP.
Seriously, if Umno Youth, KJ, and most of the senior leadership want him to go, who is actually left on Zahid's side?
PS; MACC now involved, so my guess...Umno elections will be declared invalid because Zahid bought votes.
australia recognized west jerusalem as israeli capital & if still in solidarity with palestinians dumbo or annie shud cease siding with aussie lynas muakakakaReplyDelete
annie even though RBA im a Dr M loyalist, sad i hv 2 go on long leave no more dumbo to bash sobReplyDelete
You can bash the one remaining Umno MP, Idris Jusoh claims he is not leaving.
He CLAIMS, lah : P
//f the huge quantity of residue is so dangerous and Lynas had breached the law, //
If I am not mistaken, Lynas HAS NOT breached the law.
It appears that Lynas is legally permitted by the Malaysian Govt, albeit the previous Najib administration, to increase the waste stockpile.
Speaking of the waste stockpile, I understand it consists of thorium.
Thorium does have a commercial value but unfortunately there is little demand for thorium at the moment because the technology is simply not there to extract and use thorium efficiently and effectively.
I recall reading somewhere some years ago that thorium could be the next "magic fuel" for nuclear power stations because it has some significant advantages over uranium.
The Wikipedia mentions that there are a number of thorium-power nuclear reactors in existence.
My guess is that the low number of thorium-powered nuclear reactors is due to the many technological difficulties in extracting thorium easily and cheaply - at the moment.
And yes, thorium is radioactive and can cause problems to humans.
I have no idea what percentage of thorium is in that waste stockpile.
So far, it appears that Lynas can't recycle that waste stockpile, so the next step is to store it in a PDF.
If Lynas does built a PDF, it would have fulfilled its legal obligations and it would seem very difficult for Yeo to shut it down.
So, the answer to saving the jobs of those workers is for Lynas to just built the PDF, right?
Maybe, Lynas does not want to built a PDF, in which case, it has to ship the waste out, as that is what it is legally obliged to do so.
Correct me if I am wrong but those are the only three options which Lynas has with regards to the waste, right?
Recycle, store safely or ship out.
Well, actually Yeo Bee Yin just wants to close down Lynas. She's not interested in anything else. She went straight to the ship out part.Delete
//She's not interested in anything else.//
From what I can tell so far, what the Minister is not interested in is of little relevance.
Lynas appears to have a strong legal footing in the PDF option.
So, all Lynas has to do is to build that PDF and it is end of story.
Not sure why Lynas is taking so long with building this PDF as it would give certainty to its worried workforce.
Heh heh heh...Delete
I think I came too close to the truth.
Don't worry, Lynas will have to follow the law.
Annie will finish her contract quota of articles and get paid.
And the waste will be removed.
BTW...a report's been lodged with the MACC on WHY the Najib regime broke so many rules for Lynas.
It's OK lah.
Corruption is just fine as long as the mercenary bloggers get dedak-ed : )
Anonymous @ 17 December 2018 at 10:38,ReplyDelete
//I think I came too close to the truth.//
Sorry, but what truth are you refering to?
//And the waste will be removed.//
Don't think sdo.
There is nowhere for that waste to go.
I think Lynas will be f orced into building the PDF.
//a report's been lodged with the MACC on WHY the Najib regime broke so many rules for Lynas.//
Personally, I think this is a frivolous matter to file with MACC.
I find it hard to believe that Lynas would engage in corrupt practices.
Not only would Lynas be penalised here in Malaysia but they would probably also be penalised in Australia.
But who knows, I could be proven wrong.
a) Truth? Lie-Nas is even hiring university students now to do propaganda by writing to the papers - they should have just stuck with Annie and her boss, cukup lah : ) How much money do they want to waste?Delete
b) "I think Lynas will be forced into building the PDF", yes hence the waste will be removed. VERY belatedly. They were supposed to build the PDF in 2012. If they fail again, they can blame themselves.
c) "I find it hard to believe that Lynas would engage in corrupt practices." Mmmmmmmm, so despite being under the jurisdiction of several gomen agencies, they were able to stockpile waste many tens of thousands of times above the legal limits - and to ignore (a) their recycling promises (b) their PDF construction promises.
Which Najib crony was protected?
PS: I find it hard to believe that 1MDB, TH, Felda, KBS, Yapeim, BNM, etc etc etc would engage in corrupt practices, too : )
Welcome to Malaysia!
Anonymous @ 17 December 2018 at 13:07,ReplyDelete
//a) Truth? Lie-Nas is even hiring university students now to do propaganda by writing to the papers//
First time I have heard this!!
Do you have a link to the news article reporting this or do you have any links to articles written y said students?
//b) "I think Lynas will be forced into building the PDF", yes hence the waste will be removed. //
If the PDF was built, I don't think Lynas would need to remove any waste out of Malaysia, at least that is how I think the agreement works.
//If they fail again, they can blame themselves.//
Yup, and it would be a real shame if Lynas had to close due to incompetence on the part of the Lynas management.
The processing plant is an opportunity for Malaysia to capture a slice of the global rare earths market.
From everything I have read so far, Lynas just has to built that PDF and the Minister will have nothing to say and has to shut up.
//they were able to stockpile waste many tens of thousands of times above the legal limits //
As far as I know, Lynas was given permission by Jibby to increase the waste stockpile.
So, Lynas is in the clear - legally speaking.
//and to ignore (a) their recycling promises//
Not really true.
From what I understand, Lynas did try to find ways to recycle but the waste was notoriously hard to recycle, eg it is simply not profitable, at the moment, to extract thorium from the waste.
Also, no other useful products could be made from the waste either.
So, this leaves just the PDF.
Why Lynas has not chosen to built the PDF is a bit of a mystery.
//Which Najib crony was protected?//
I don't find this statement very useful, sorry.
It can bring about the converse question - "Which Pakatan crony will benefit from a Lynas closure?".
Notwithstanding the converse question, I am certain that if there is a Najib crony behind Lynas, Pakatan is now in power and thus has the perfect opportunity to expose him/her.
To date, we have heard nothing about any involvement by Najib cronies nor of Pakatan cronies.
Personally, I think the Lynas debacle is simply a very unfortunate affair, badly managed by the Lynas management and the previous UMNO/BN govt.
Lynas took advantage of the useless lazy morons in the UMNO/BN administration and delayed building that PDF for as long as they could.
I still believe that Lynas can save the situation by building the PDF.
I believe that Lynas is fully capable of providing world's best management of a rare earths processing facilty.
I only wish that Lynas would start doing so that we, Malaysians, have an opportunity to see world's best practices at work and implement similar disciplines in our work environment ourselves.
Please remember this is a foreign company that had complied with every single regulations, and was legally permitted to be set up by the Malaysian government.ReplyDelete
I agree the ex PM is corrupt but so are most politicians there, and I am also sure the same will go for this government.
A company that is benefiting the people of Malaysia is been ridiculed and bullied to near extinction.
Oh yes, the mountains of radioactive waste this company is producing. It will cause millions of Malaysian to have cancer for billions of years to come.
I suggest you don’t believe what anyone has written and do your own research. All PhDs in these areas will say is that the amount of radiation is minis cue and are not considered harmful.
What is harmful is that the three politicians are not telling the truth and misleading the public. Corrupt government?
They may not be accepting bribe but they are causing Malaysia to lose foreign investments, causing loss of jobs and hurting all the academics that are purely stating the truth.