Observing Najib-Dr Mahathir from the blogs that rock

It's almost midnight as I start to write this.

I really don't have anything interesting to write except the ongoing spat between the camps of PM DS Najib Razak and Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad.

I know, those from the Dr Mahathir's camp had commented in my previous posts that I should describe it as Najib versus rakyat, but I think I need to be fair by not putting it that way.

Well, yesterday, I was mostly reading blogs listed in rocky's bru  main blogroll, which touched on the issue.

I'm just going to tell you what I saw from both camps.

The first that I read in the morning was Dave Avram's

So who really is Lim Kok Wing and how much do we know of him? 

Interestingly, Malaysia Online (The Mole) later in the day has this story,

Lim Kok Wing denies Nothing2Hide involvement

Then, when I got to office, I found Jebat's rather good and simple explanation on parts of the 1MDB issue,

IPIC – The RM3.6 billion payment for 1MDB dummies

That made me noticed the explanation on the matter in the blog of the prime minister the previous night.

Najib among others wrote that Dr Mahathir should also be blamed for the country's current mess....or something like that.

I'm sorry that I can't find the direct link to it because somehow the PM's blog administrators made it quite difficult when I tried to find it.

You simply have to go to the PM's main blog page and try to find it there,

NajibRazak.com

And of course Dr Mahathir later yesterday afternoon had his own latest post where he wrote about,

HOW 1MDB MONEY WAS INVESTED 

Well, I think Dr Mahathir was more questioning than explaining things. Not at all as suggested by the title of his post.

Later on, I also noticed that some bloggers in the Najib's camp were beginning to favor a peace talk.

At least two of Najib's supporters in Rocky's blogroll supported the call by Umno Youth chief Khairy Jamaluddin for Najib and Dr Mahathir to meet privately and settle their differences.

Jailani Harun of Just Read wrote about it and asked the two guys to

Settle it! 

while Parpukari told everyone this,

SEJUKKAN API ITU WAHAI PENYOKONG SEMUA! 

But then again, Dr Mahathir in his posting yesterday had wrote;

10. I don’t think we can resolve the problem of where the 1MDB money has gone through four-eyed meetings. Najib can resolve through proving beyond reasonable doubt that no money has disappeared from the 42 billion borrowed.

And of course Sabah assembly speaker DS Salleh Mohd Keruak was whacking Dr Mahathir as usual,

Stop questioning and instead give us the answers, Mahathir 

Meanwhile, supporters of Dr Mahathir were also on the offensive starting late in the afternoon,

Senior journalist and blogger Datuk A Kadir Jasin wrote,

N2H: Arul Kanda not Dr Mahathir who Spooks the PM 

with Syed Akbar Ali commenting on it with the question of,

Zeti's penchants ...?? 

And then Firdaus Abdullah of Apanama last night being very brave wrote,

Rulers are above politics and 1MDB is a scandal - AMPUN TUANKU

Well, there you have it ; stuff from a single blogroll that I read today as an observer of the Najib-Dr Mahathir unrest.

No matter what his detractors said about Rocky these days, I think his main blogroll still consists a fair balance of both sides.

My heart goes out to Tanjong Katong (updated)

UPDATES

A prime minister's message,

A story of heroes, and others,

Praises pour in for heroic Kinabalu malim gunung

ORIGINAL POST

My heartfelt condolences to the loved ones of those who perished in the Sabah earthquake.

To honor the memory of the young victims from Tanjong Katong Primary School, Singapore, here is their school song,

May their soul rest in peace.

The PM is handsome and caring

Just feel like praising the Singapore PM a bit this Sunday morning.

It's because someone sent me this,

I always like Lee Hsien Loong.

He sounds so genuinely sympathetic and trying his best for the victims of the earthquake tragedy in Sabah.

I think he is a good prime minister and Singaporeans are lucky to have him.

Anyway, he is also indeed very handsome.

p.s For what PM DS Najib Razak has to say, please go to his blog posting,

Gempa Bumi Di Sabah

Answering Salleh's rant about Dr Mahathir

DS Salleh Said Keruak was chief minister of Sabah from Dec 28, 1994 to May 26 1996.

He was nominated to the post by then prime minister Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad, before being appointed by his father, then Sabah governor Mohd Said Keruak who was also the state's 4th chief minister.

He is now the current speaker of Sabah state assembly.

I think the introduction was necessary as some of you, especially the younger ones may not know the guy who is now one of the fiercest attackers of Dr Mahathir.

Yesterday he described Dr Mahathir's conduct at the PWTC as

Unbecoming of a statesman

The following is his article in full with my comments in blue ;

Salleh Said Keruak

Annie, a little lady of the valley

Those critical of Prime Minister Najib Tun Razak are mocking him for not attending the ‘Nothing2Hide’ dialogue session today.

Yes, naturally that's the outcome. What did you expect? 

Some have even called him a coward for ‘chickening out’ and for not having the guts to face Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad.

I think Najib was called even worse than that.

Personally, I think the public dialogue that was going to be turned into a public brawl between the Prime Minister and Dr Mahathir is a bad idea.

That's your personal opinion. But, Ya. You shouldn't be brawling with a 90 year old man. In fact you shouldn't even badmouth such an old man, especially if he is a statesman who had done so much for the country and once put you personally in a lofty position. 

I was actually quite relieved when it was called off. First of all, I do not see what such a brawl can achieve. There are no winners and losers in something like this.

Actually, there's always be a winner and loser in a brawl. The one standing at the end of it is the winner, while the one thrashed to the ground is the loser. 

I remember when a public debate was held between PKR Youth and Umno Youth, also in PWTC, and it was reduced to a jeering match with both sides claiming they won the debate.

Was it?  

All it did was to reduce the dignity of the debaters to the level of the crowd who were only interested in seeing a fight and were not interested in the facts that the debaters had to argue.

I don't think there would have been a debate if the PM turned up. Najib will be on stage answering questions while Dr Mahathir will be on the floor asking questions. I don't remember ever seeing Dr Mahathir debating in public. He was just asking questions this time. Just answer him lah.   

This is what would have happened today. No one would have been interested in what the Prime Minister has to say. What they wanted to see was for Dr Mahathir to hentam Najib in public. 

Eeerrr...I would be interested in what the PM has to say. Wouldn't you all too? Most of the people in the hall were civilized people from the NGOs. I think they would want to listen to the PM too. I think Dr Mahathir can act with decorum and not just buta buta hantam Najib. 

In fact, that was the very purpose for Tun Mahathir turning up, so that he could hentam Najib. Dr Mahathir does not care what Najib has to say.

That's your opinion. My opinion was that Dr Mahathir went to the forum to get answers for his questions. If the answers were reasonable, he may just shut up. The audience could be the judges if he still make noise if Najib had given satisfactory answers. 

He has already decided he will not accept Najib’s explanation.

You assumed too much. If the answers were good, I think Dr Mahathir will have to accept them as the whole thing was to be disclosed in a public forum. 

Dr Mahathir has reduced himself from the level of a statesman to that of a street brawler.

People can say that you have been reduced to that of a shameless attack dog. 

And this is most unfortunate. What is even more unfortunate is that Dr Mahathir expects the Prime Minister to also come down to this level.

Nope. As I said, Dr Mahathir was to be on the floor asking questions, while the PM on the stage answering him. I don't think Dr Mahathir will ask Najib to go down to be with him on the floor. 

Had Najib turned up today the entire event would have become undignified.

I think it would have been great if the PM had turned up, met Dr Mahathir, be nice to him, answered him to his satisfaction and everything becomes well again. 

With the shouting, booing and jeering, and the main purpose being to run down the Prime Minister, nothing would have been achieved.

I watched the video clip of Dr Mahathir's interrupted speech. The jeering only started when they told him to stop talking. I think the audience is a civilized one if the organizer know how to keep things under control. 

It was, therefore, a very good idea that Najib did not turn up.

It's a bloody bad idea that Najib did not turn up as now he is being whacked upside down in the social media and no amount of spinning can help the PM now. 

I dread to think what would have happened had he turned up and tempers had gone out of control. Under such a situation it does not take much for words to turn to violence.

Errr...whatever lah...

Dr Mahathir gives rebellion a kiss of life (updated)

UPDATES

For PM's explanation, please go to this link

Dialog Dengan Badan-badan Bukan Kerajaan 

ORIGINAL POST

I was wrong when I wrote this,

The worst may be over for Najib

The rebellion is not yet dead.

Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad gave it a kiss of life today when he turned up at the Nothing2Hide forum where PM DS Najib Razak was supposed to answer questions from members of NGOs.

Well, it's just not that.

The way the organizers of the event handled the situation played a big part too.

This is the report by The Star,

Nothing2Hide: Dr Mahathir stopped from speaking at dialogue, event called off

I was thinking..."What the hell they think they were doing?"

It's bad enough that Najib decided not to turn up, now they were telling the 90-year-old statesman to stop talking.

Can't they anticipate all these before deciding to organize the whole bloody thing and do the necessary to prevent such farce?

I guess you all have seen the reactions in social media.

Useless.

No Balls.

And many more of such nature.

All directed at Najib.

For me, this happened because people with personal vested interest with just a bit of brain were recruited as members of the PM's inner circle.

I know who is that Sukaguam guy who tried to be in the PM's good book by organising the forum.

He is an Umno operative from my hometown Kluang.

But I rather not elaborate...don't want my blood to boil.

Now the Umno rebels who have been laying low over the past few days have a renewed reason to start shooting at Najib again.

Even if they lose in the end, the damage inflicted on Najib would be irreversible.

You should also read what Dr Mahathir wrote after the whole mess at PWTC this morning;

LEGACY

A definitely stronger Pas

As expected, the ulama faction won the Pas election as announced last night.

Party president DS Abdul Hadi Awang led the victory which will see the Islamist party reverting back to its conservative roots.

You can check out the outcome of the election here at Malaysia Online (The Mole),

Hadi remains as PAS president

The progressive faction were almost totally wiped out.

Umno people who think this means Pas will be pulling out of Pakatan may want to throw a party in celebration but I think they should pause a bit and THINK.

Are they very sure this latest development in Pas is really good for Umno.

Go to the link above and check out the line-up of Pas new set of leaders.

They are almost all serious looking committed Islamists.

All the jokers are now gone.

Umno people cannot joke around anymore about Mat Sabun, Din Puduraya and other funny Erdogan personalities after this.

Now, try to remember what I was trying to warn about the re-emergence of an overwhelmingly dominant conservative Pas leadership,

Umno, you realize this coming danger from Pas or not?

Now, you check once more the list of new Pas leaders and compare them with that of Umno's.

Then think about what is happening in this country.

Well, who do you think the Malays will now choose to lead them?

Previously, Umno could tell the Malays that the party provides for them a better and dignified existence.

Can it still claim so?

Pas has always promise those who support the party an easier passage to paradise in the afterlife.

That's its main selling point.

Don't you think the Malays, after all the nonsense which currently happen in the country, may be tempted this time to believe in such promise?

Personally, I think they may.

Umno, you realize this coming danger from Pas or not?

Last night 1MDB issued a short press statement, accompanied by some simple charts, which I supposed was meant to once and for all clarify what happened to the billions of ringgit many believed had been siphoned away by....bad people...I guess.

Pro-Najib blogger SeaDemon put the whole thing as it is in his posting,

1MDB:The RM42b Is There 

Not so pro-Najib blogger Jebat Must Die, was apparently not so impressed and posted more or less the same thing but added a commentary and some questions he said was not answered by the press statement.

Jebat's questions:

1) Why did 1MDB used a company linked with Jho Low, Brazen Sky to invest in Cayman Islands? What happened to the money?

2) The high financial cost in acquiring those unnecessary loans which according to the books above, costing more than RM5 billion in interests which taxpayers have to bear. 

3) Is all the RM4.2 billion ‘investment’ in Aabar all accounted for?

4) How come 1MDB agreed to pay PetroSaudi USD700 million (RM3.2 billion) of interest free loan given just a few days before? This money was banked in into Good Star Ltd’s account. Good Star Ltd  belongs to Jho Low.

5) Who is Jho Low and why is he handling all the business deals involving 1MDB. Is he a staff of 1MDB staff or an authorised civil servant in Ministry of Finance?

If you have nothing better to do, I recommend you to read Jebat's full posting

1MDB: Arul Kanda and his clarification on the RM42 billion debt 

which I think will give you a bit of a headache and probably quite some heartache once you get to fully understand it.

Really, it's that good.

Anyway, for me, those were all just academics now.

I don't think the 1MDB issue really matter anymore, now that,

The worst may be over for Najib

I have given it some thoughts and decided there are actually bigger things coming our way that needed attention such as

Dewan Ulama wants PAS to cut ties with DAP

I know, the pro-Umno and pro-BN people are cheering this on.

The pro-Najib camp will see this as further relief for their boss from all those 1MDB nonsense and other stuff.

They want Pas to break away from Pakatan, hoping the Islamists party will later on be sorts of an Umno's little brother again in a probable union under the umbrella of Malay unity.

They think their enemies will be weakened by the break-up of Pakatan.

Utusan, NST, TV3 etc had been highlighting what ever little news they can get which could hasten Pas' departure from Pakatan.

But do they realize the danger of Pas being on its own?

Let me put this as simple as I can.

Pas actually will be stronger if it breaks away from Pakatan as then they will be free to go around peddling among the Malays their Islamic credentials such as wanting to set up a truly Islamic state and implementing Islamic laws.

No more that lame negara berkebajikan bullshit.

Now, especially with many Malays getting fed-up with Umno, I think Pas will do very well being that way.

The overwhelming majority of Malays love to be more Islamic, or at least seemingly more Islamic.

Previously, a lot of Malays decided not to support Pas because of their association with particularly DAP which they see as a dastardly Chinese chauvinist party.

Now that out of the way, they don't find Pas such a bad choice anymore.

Remember when the late Pas Mursyidul Am Datuk Nik Abdul Aziz Nik Mat passed away, how the Malays across the political divide treated it as the passing of a saint?

Now Nik Aziz's cute and saintly-looking son

Nik Abduh is new chief of PAS Youth

And this guy is smart, articulate and on top of everything, RELIGIOUS.

His rival from Umno is good looking too,

but I doubt KJ can get anywhere close to Nik Abduh's religious appeal.

Malays (especially their girls and ladies) are really into all these religious stuff, okay.

Pas will soon have tones of new recruits once they don't carry the DAP and other baggages anymore.

They will even get rid of the ugly ones among them too once the ulama faction totally takes over the party

If you don't believe me, just wait for the outcome of their party elections on Saturday.

I'm going to miss making fun of Mat Sabu.

Well, how about the non-Muslim votes, especially the Chinese?

Do you seriously think they will abandon DAP in the next general election to prop up BN out of fear of Pas?

I don't think so, okay.

DAP will go around telling the Chinese they need to be more united than ever under its umbrella if they were to survive the upheavals that were happening among the Malays.

It's very unlikely that the Chinese will save BN like they did during the general election in 1999.

The young Chinese voters, conditioned over the years by DAP to hate Umno will not be able to make themselves vote for BN, no matter what.

So, a disunited Umno and its hapless non-Malay allies, will be facing a stronger Pas and strong as ever DAP.

Oh, almost forgot, PKR is also without the Anwar baggage. That will make them less disgusting too among the Malays.

And also, what makes everyone think DAP, Pas and PKR will not work out something after they have defeated BN in the next general election?

For all you know, they had already planned and choreograph all these little quarreling nonsense so that they can become stronger among their respective core support base.

You see, these days the Pakatan people seem to be getting smarter than Umno and BN people.

Okay, Umno people, you all get it or not what I'm trying to tell?

Really, you all should not be too happy that Pas is going on their own.

Most of your safe deposits in the kampung areas will soon be stolen, okay.

I think Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad has seen this coming.

That's why he is making all those noises.