Friday 23 September 2016

Please don't whack Permata

I admitted in this post that I once asked for money from PM DS Najib Razak,


excerpts :

It happened shortly before I left Pahang for Johor after the general election in 2008.

I was desperately trying to raise fund for a centre for special needs children in Kuantan.

Those who really know me would know why getting the fund was very important to me.

I was running out of options when I decided to approach my friend.

He was very understanding when I told him about it and when I showed him all the documentation for the fund request, he promised to show it to Najib for consideration as soon as possible.

He understood why I had to settle the matter before I leave Pahang.

My friend came back to see me a week later.

Najib had approved an allocation for the fund from a special budget in his capacity as deputy prime minister.



I brought up this story again because I read this article just now,

Permata’s work with autistic children worth the money



It quoted Permata Kurnia director Associate Professor Dr Hasnah Toran.

excerpts :

“PK (Permata Kurnia) had done six live-stream public forums for those living outside of the Klang Valley and we have also launched a massive open online course on autism called iKurnia.
“Last year we went to 11 states and Insyallah (God’s willing), this year we will conduct a training module for teachers of autistic children in the Klang Valley.
“It’s easy for some to belittle us via their keyboards but remember, every time you make fun of Permata, you are also belittling the efforts of our staffs who have been working for the future of Malaysian children.
“We at Permata are very grateful that DSRM (Rosmah) is very concerned over gifted children and the need for people to not only be aware of these children but to also aid them,” she wrote.
I'm quite familiar with the works of Dr Hasnah and know a bit about her life.

She is not a political person and works mostly for the betterment of special needs children, especially those with autism and their families

Because of my experience as I told in the above previous posting, I believe I can understand her sentiment when she defended Permata and its founder, Najib's wife DS Rosmah Mansor.

I think we need to be fair.

Whacking Permata which is meant to assist children, including those with special needs is not fair.

I believe that those who are going after Najib, should not make Permata their target.

It's being mean to do that, okay.

To read in full what Dr Hasnah wrote about Permata, please click on this Facebook link ;

Facebook posting by Dr Hasnah Toran

This is a report on Permata Kurnia (the Permata division which assist children with autism) by Astro Awani,


67 comments:

  1. i agree we shouldnt whack permata because of rosmah.

    On the other hands it seems to me good name of permata is tarnished by her., wouldnt u say?

    lately it has been a trend whtever is associated with her and u know who, tends to get pull into their bad images.

    its time u know, cause theyve been a liability to the nation for too damn long. people are sick of them, yet they remain shameless.

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    1. The Prophet (pbuh) said:
      "The prophets of yore down to our day have stated one thing: 'If you have no shame (moral conscience that will save your soul) then do whatever you will'!"

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    2. Betul tu.

      Yang bohong adalah pembangkang, DOJ, Swiss, Singapura, Luxembourg, UK, dll, kan?

      UMNO dan juaknya adalah maksum. Mungkin setaraf nabi. Semua ahlinya mungkin masuk syurga. Oleh itu, usahlah dipertikai akan UMNO serta sekutunya...

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    3. from anon 24 September 2016 at 13:46

      The Prophet (pbuh) said:
      "The prophets of yore down to our day have stated one thing: 'If you have no shame (moral conscience that will save your soul) then do whatever you will'!"

      dont try to manipulate prophet muhammad hadis
      dont beat around the bush
      dont try to appear maksum
      instead speak out your opinion if you are indicating that you are soo smart and absolute maksum

      instead focus on bigger picture and explain things like 1MDB and jho low scumbag thievery and economic situations


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  2. Annie, wayang depan mesti cantik untuk tutup wayang belakang.

    Penyamun tetap penyamun, rompak dyut rakyat miskin untuk PERMATA hukumnya tetap haram.

    BRIM umpamanya bukankah untuk rakyat? Seringgit untuk rakyat, berapa untuk Najib?

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    1. Cakap je duit rasuah tu ialah derma ikhlas dari putera arab. Pas tu hang dok pakat ngan mat-mat sekutu mu buat kenyataan bahawa derma tu untuk lawan is, daeh, yahudi, amerika, freemason, lbgt, kristian, hindu, syiah...entah apa lagi lah yang nkorang x suka. Lagi pun sumber-sumber rasuah tu dari tangan kafir harbi, maka x salah dari segi syariah sebab mufti ulamak tak sebising pun macam pokemon go bikin punya heboh.

      Malu? Apa kejadah malu kalo songlapan 1mdb termasyur seantero dunia dengan jolokan nama the biggest heist ever? Kulit UMNO terlalu tebal dan kematu untuk malu bertapak. Mo1 dan mrs mo1 ada malu? Sopin sakan turun naik pesawat macam turun naik eskalator je. Pembodek-pembodeknya ada malu? Kabinetnyta ada malu? Pejawat-penjawat awam entah berapa juta ada malu? Penerima-penerima dedak tahu apa yang diterima adalah dari sumber yang dikhuathiri kehalalannya. Maka ada nak ambil pusing pasal malu apabila dihisab nanti, kalau x di sini maka di sana? Atau pun fahaman mereka ialah apalah yang hendak dihisabkan kalo mereka semua hanyalah cacing pada jasad paling kemudian?

      Hanya orang-orang yang tiada kena-mengena ngan UMNO saje yang malu apabila mendapat senyuman sinis apabila mengemukakan paspot.

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  3. Annie,

    I think by your logic, we should not query abuse of funds in YAPEIM because they do good things for orphans.

    We should not query abuse of funds in KWAP because after all, some retired govt servants get their pensions.

    And so on.

    On the same day - yep, the same day - that Najis claimed that the Sedition Act was "not for repressing government critics", this happened:

    http://mynewshub.cc/2014/12/07/timbalan-ketua-wanita-pkr-disiasat-bawah-akta-hasutan/

    “Haniza disiasat di bawah Akta Hasutan berhubung komen beliau berkenaan isu Permata. Beliau mempersoalkan peruntukan kepada Permata dalam Bajet 2015 kerana didakwa terlalu besar sedangkan keberkesanan program itu tidak pernah terbukti."

    That's right: for questioning Permata expenditure, an MP was hauled up for sedition.

    So you want to assume that Permata is immune from a woman who is called "Mrs 18%" as far away as Indonesia? (But the figure is not always 18%. My friend who had a PMO contract was asked to give up 35% to Bik Mama, and was told he was "lucky".)

    You want to assume that Permata is immune? That's really optimistic.

    And it doesn't mean that there aren't good people in Permata doing good things.

    Sure, helping autistic kids is good.

    There are good people doing good things in YAPEIM and KWAP.

    There were good people in MACC, BNM and even TS Ambrin Buang did his job before the Bugia crook (or more likely his vicious, fat greedy boss) sacked, silenced, transferred them or OSA-ed their evidence.

    These are all separate issues.

    What the organisation does vs. what it is abused for.

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  4. Annie..
    The whacking was aim at Rosmah, the boss of permata not the good dr and others. One should understand that not everyone is agreable using bad money to do good.

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    1. Islamic syariah forbids the use of HARAM means and methods to achieve supposedly HALAL ends and objectives.

      A bad-hearted woman who robs the peasants cannot pretend to give charity at the prayer gathering!

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  5. Setuju sepatutnya apa apa yg melibatkan kanak kanak atau sesiapu saja yg tidak berdosa mereka tidak harus dipersalahkan tapi mungkin kerana ramai yang terlampau meluat dgn Rosmah sehinggakan apa apa saja yg penglibatan Rosmah secara lansung ataupun tidak lansung ,semuanya dijadikan mangsa kutukan dan bahan cercaan.

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  6. Tak payah marah sama Rosmah. Pi Kampung, pi Feldq, pi luar bandar, pi tanya Melayu semua setakat geleng kepala aje... tapi masa undi, tetap undi suaminya. So, Melayu terima.

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  7. 18.53
    Who ever are you...am very disgusted with your attitude
    Who do you accussed as robbers....proved it with facts..not from some one familiar with the case or someone related with the case
    Iam one of the rakyat,never I had experienced the govt rompak my money and not from rakyat miskin eitheir
    Kalau BRIM bukan untuk Rakyat,selama ini siapa yang terima?
    Most of PERMATA programme concentrated on OKU..
    Orang macam sdr ini akan hanya sedar bila masaalah dgn OKU ini kena batang hidongg atau sdr mara sendiri.

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    1. dude ( i think a maam),

      gov x rompak duit rakyat? ever heard kleptocracy? read the detailed report for facts

      the stealing has been done long before now, during tingkat 4 and even earlier. you are just being ignorant.

      people cannot tahan now because they are doing it without limits to the point of bringing down the country

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    2. Mereka terikut2 dengan gaya hidup MO1 yang mewah terutama sekali Mrs MO1 yang megah menggunakan barang2 berjenama...sebab itu kakitangan kerajaan yang lain turut menerima derma dan hadiah dari golongan pak arab dari negara timur tengah.

      Jadi jangan kita buruk prasangka terhadap mereka dan mengatakan mereka menerima rasuah tetapi sebenarnya mereka menerima hadiah dan derma dari raja2 arab. Di fahamkan ramai lagi yang akan menerima derma dan hadiah dari pak arab yang perihatin terhadap orang2 UMNO sebab rakyat malaysia terutama sekali orang2 UMNO berani angkat senjata macam MO1 melawan DAESH dan kumpulan ABU SAYYAF.

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    3. 'Never I had experienced the govt rompak my money'? Kawan, you think 1mdb, th, kwap, yapeim etc are all what, personal bank accounts of Umno leaders ke? They belong to the rakyat, it's public funds. Stealing from these funds is stealing from the people.

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  8. Annie,

    To be honest, I have very little idea what Permata does.

    I only know it works with kids and it is connected to Rosmah Mansor.

    Is it just for Melayu kids or all Malaysian kids? I dunno.

    I have never seen or heard of Permata's work around my kampung.

    I suspect that if I asked 1,000 totally random folks along the main street of my kampung, not one person would have heard of Permata.

    At least where my kampung is concerned, I don't think anybody would be whacking Permata simply because they have never heard of it or know what it is.

    I'll bet that if I mention that Permata is connected with Rosmah Mansor, well.... you know lah...

    Gladiator

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  9. Ok understand where your stance in doing good for children.

    What is your opinion about NSC? For Malaysians as a whole?

    My opinion about NSC its necessary but not until i have 'depth' understanding about it.

    P/S : if it unpractical to discuss about this issue according to your judgement please dont release this comment.

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    1. Umno stands for 3Rs and they ignored the Rulers' directive on 1MDB and NSC. What kind of "defenders of royalty" is that?

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    2. Umno and Gov are different entity but both are establishment. Is it Umno problem? Or establishment problem?

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  10. Anon 22:22.. Simpati pada awak sebab awak buta untuk melihat rakyat dirompak melalui gst.

    Di Malaysia, rakyat miskin ke rakyat kaya yang lebih ramai. Yang banyak di jalanraya bmw ke proton..

    gst... Orang kaya kena gst 6%, orang miskin kena gst berapa %..

    PERMATA.. berapa juta kanak2 terlibat dengan peruntukan mega besar? Somemore dikecualikan odit?

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    1. Najib baru jadi pm lebih kurang 6 tahun, tun m dah jadi pm 22 tahun. kalau betul la tun m buat salah mcm najib, agaknya dah beribu-ribu dah beg tgn isteri tun m. cincin berlian pun agaknya dah besar cam bola sepak....

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  11. So far, only 1 child I know went for a Permata course, from a Pahang sekolah rendah. The father gave up after a while because he said he had to send his kid to KL during school holidays and his kid got fed up because tak buat apa pun. his kid wasn't one of those lucky choir ones.

    Other than that, no one from my family and friends knows of any other kid chosen for Permata.

    How big is this programme? Wonder if anyone knows?

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    1. I think it worth 2.4m carat of PERMATA. Thats how big it is.

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  12. Huh...I hope you got your answer already Annie. We 100% dont hve problem with PERMATA or even UMNO....but we do hve problem with people whom running those organizations....clear? Thank you.

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    1. Even Umno if you look historically did much good in the early years of the country. First 4 PMs made big steps for Malaysia. Then No 5 got conned by 4th Floor boys, No 6 married a fat greedy monster, and now we are doomed.

      So you are right, 'organization' and 'people running' are very different things.

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    2. But Number 6 is far worse than Number 5. Even if Pak Lah was back, the country would be better off. Never thought I would say that!

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  13. LOL, you know something Annie, even your "blogging captain" (a.k.a. Malaysia's laziest blogger) has used your posting as indirect way to defend Rosmah from Unesco fiasco. Its confusing 2 different issues lah...

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  14. salam.

    lama tak masuk sini sbb banyak perkara berlaku...

    u nak pertahan permata takpe...tapi tahu tak penubuhan permata menyebabkan ramai budak2 miskin yang dapat rmt kena potong..tahu tak...

    permata d tubuhkan atas tangisan,kelaparan dan kebingungan budak2 yang dapat rmt akhirnya bertanya kepada cikgunya soalan "mana nasi saya cikgu?"

    permata boleh antar orang ke luar negara tapi budak rmt masih bertanya...

    budak2 permata tak salah tapi budak rmt pun tak salah...

    apakah hak budak rmt terlalu kurang atau terlalu jijik untuk blogger mempertahankan mereka...

    gie7

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  15. Much of the problem now prevalent is because of the tolerance of the Malays. In other countries like Philipines, Rommania and many other countries the people rose to overthrow these people. In this country, BRIM and other small measures are enough to lull the Malays. Malays seem to have an attitude, "janji kita dapat sesuatu, tak apelah dia nak "curi"". You really think Malays wil do anything beyond muttering in the warungs? Malays will only do something, when they cross the Malacca Straits to work in Indonesia. By then it is too late. Lanjutkan Perdana Menteri dan Ibu Negara.

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  16. 05.22
    Apa bengap sangat ni...yg Kjaan dapat 30 Bil dari GST tu berapa percent dari rakyat..Tgt businessmen yg selama ni avoid taxes.Dulux bila makan kat hotel atau outlet besar,baca bill 10,% govt tax...tak bising pun.Be honest to yourself,in a day how much you.pay GST,does it really effect your daily life,do you suffer on sampai tak makan.Pernah ke dengar rakyat kebulur di Msia...
    Saya rasa betul la,Agama ada sebut
    ..orang yg selalu kena fitnah akan mendapat segala pahsla dari pemfitnah.Saya bukan Tuhan nak menentukan ini,tapi saya lihat Najib n famili relax aja,tapi yg macam cacing kepanasan ialah para pencacai yg menyalak sana sini,tapi semua rancangan hancur,malah dari hari kr hari,sikit demi sikit kebenaran timbulKita cuma bolih merancang yg menentukan adalah ALLAH..

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    1. Anon 10:04,

      Saya setuju sangat dengan kata kata tuan/puan/cik, dah sampai masa nama Allah dikeluarkan kalau tidak para pencacai akan terus menyalak.

      Memang betul lihat saja ke-relax-an Najib n famili seorang Muslim / muslimah yang takut pada tuhannya akan sedar bahawa kurniaan Allah kepada famili pertama Negaraku sudah boleh jadi bukti bahawa yang berada di kebenaran tu adalah Najib n famili.

      Nikmat dunia dia dapat, bahkan dengan pahala yang dirampas daripada pemfitnah itu pun boleh jadi bekalan dia di akhirat nanti. Inilah yang sering Melayu cakap: dunia dapat, akhirat pun dapat.

      Disebabkan orangnya baik, Allah juga menghancurkan segala rancangan para pencacai yang umpama cacing kepanasan menyalak sana sini. Dah lama saya tak dengar kewujudan orang kesayangan Illahi sehingga tersedar setelah membaca peringatan tuan/puan/cik tentang apa yang berlaku pada Najib n famili. Allah maha Besar syukur al-Hamdulil-Lah.

      Para pencacai harus akur bahawa memang tak ada pun rakyat kebuluran di Malaysia. Diam diam dia orang makan kat hotel atau outlet besar bayar 10% govt tax, tak rasa apa apa pun. Ini GST sikit punya hal dah menyalak. Mujurlah ada Allah yang menentukan untuk rakyat Malaysia dengan kurniaan terbesar yakni Najib PM tercinta.

      Ada tak saksi yang membuktikan Najib mencuri? Takde.

      Ada tak bukti lain bahawa Najib mencuri? Takde.

      Rezeki siapa yang berikan? Allah.

      Pemimpin siapa yang menentukan? Allah.

      Ketua negara Islam digelar apa? Khalifah.

      Siapakah amirulmukminin? Khalifah.

      Siapa yang defend Islam dalam sesebuah negara Islam ? Khalifah .

      Siapakah khalifah di Malaysia ? PM.

      Apakah wajib untuk mukmin di Malaysia menyokong khalifahnya? Wajib.



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    2. Macai o macai o macai, nahhhh.......sila tonton.......

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi--3fXHgv4

      Hmmmmm, x dapat wang dlm akaun peribadi? Kantoi ler.

      Al-Quran itu, diturunkan oleh Allah Yang Maha Kuasa, lagi Maha Mengasihani,

      Supaya engkau (ya Muhammad) memberi peringatan dan amaran kepada kaum yang datuk neneknya telah lama tidak diberikan peringatan dan amaran; sebab itulah mereka lalai.

      Demi sesungguhnya, telah tetap hukuman seksa atas kebanyakan mereka, kerana mereka tidak mahu beriman.

      Sesungguhnya Kami jadikan (kesombongan dan keengganan mereka untuk tunduk kepada kebenaran sebagai) belenggu yang memberkas kedua tangan mereka ke batang leher mereka; (belenggu itu) sampai (menongkatkan) dagu mereka lalu menjadilah mereka terdongak.

      Dan Kami jadikan (sifat tamak dan kegilaan mereka kepada harta dan pangkat itu sebagai) sekatan (yang menghalang mereka daripada memandang kepada keburukan dan kesingkatan masa dunia yang ada) di hadapan mereka, dan pun sekatan (yang menghalang mereka daripada memikirkan azab yang ada) di belakang mereka (pada hari kiamat). Lalu Kami tutup pandangan mereka; maka dengan itu, mereka tidak akan dapat melihat (jalan yang benar).

      Dan (sebab itu) sama sahaja kepada mereka, engkau beri amaran atau engkau tidak beri amaran kepadanya - mereka tidak akan beriman.

      Sedarlah, macai o macai o macai.

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    3. Anon 16:13... nampak macam penyokong Daesh atau IS je. Daesh memang nakkan Pemerintahan Khalifah. Tak ada Piliharaya. Panglima-perang mereka... lantik diri sendiri jadi Khalifah. Lain Kabilah... lain pula Khalifah mereka. Musuh disembelih, sambil penyokong melaungkan... Takbir... AllahhuAkhbar.

      Lebih kurang macam Najib juga... takbir je, belum lagi. Julang-menjulang... dah.

      Apabila Pak Lah turun pada 2009, Najib sebagai Timbalan Presiden UMNO ambil-alih jawatan PM dan.... juga... Menteri KeWANGan.
      (NB: If this is done in Kafir countries, it would have raised a lot of eyebrows.)

      PRU13... 2013, gabungan Party dalam BN... menang majority tipis kerusi Parlimen, tapi kalah undi popular. Oleh kerana UMNO menang kerusi terbanyak... maka... secara lazimnya, Presiden UMNO otomatic jadi PM. Timbalan Presiden UMNO jadi TPM.
      Pada PAU 2013 Presiden & Timbalan President... menang tanpa bertanding... Ehmmm

      Malangnya, pada June 2015... apabila scandal 1MDB mula 'panas'... Najib telah tangguh PAU 2015 selama 18 bulan. Oleh itu... sepatutnya PAU akan di adakan pada Dec. 2016,... dua bulan lagi tuh.
      Itu pun... kalau... janji di Tepati la.
      Nota:
      Jangan jadi macam laporan Audit 'forensic' 1MDB... sudah. Dulu suruh Rakyat bersabar dan tunggu. Alih-alih, bila dah siap... di OSA kan pula. Penipu betul.

      Sekarang kita tunggu... bila Najib nak announce PAU 2015.
      Nota: Dah jadi tangguh-tangguh.... seperti Penyata KeWANGan 1MDB - 2013 & 2014... yang dikeluarkan serentak dan... apabila DoJ buat dakwaan Civil, kedua penyata itu tidak lagi diperakui oleh Lembaga Pengarah 1MDB... dan juga... Deloitte...Ehmmm
      Pada masa yang sama Penyata 2015... belum nampak batang hidung. Sekarang dah nak masuk bulan Oct. 2016. Bila Arul nak keluarkan?
      Asyik tangguh-tannguh... macam mana orang nak Respect dengan pemerintahan 'Khalifah' UMNO-Najib?

      Saya rasa tak perlu la kita... Orang Melayu nak branding... apa-apa pun... dengan Islam... buat malu je. Imej Islam pun bukannya baik sangat, lebih-lebih lagi di Barat. Di hampir kesemua Negara yang ada penganut Islam... mereka berbunuhan sesama sendiri. Masjib di bom atau dibakar. Penyerang berani-mati. Tikam orang-ramai di stesen bas & keretapi... sambil melaungkan.... Takbeer.

      Di Malaysia pula... Najib hantar beribu, pergi haji pun guna duit-hutang 1MDB... satu sen pun... belum balik-modal. Potong queue... ramai yang menunggu giliran ke Mekah. Kalau guna WANG dari Yapiem, TH atau Zakat... OK la juga. Ini WANG 1MDB... Rakyat bukan-Islam juga... ada 'saham'.

      Kerajaan di tuduh Kleptocracy pula. (Rule by thieves). Macam mana... orang tak memperlekeh, memcerca atau mempersenda Islam... kita sendiri buat benda tak betul. Nak bagi nampak 'betul'... mula la... guna riwayat hadith, kata-kata dan istilah Pak Arab. Mana bukan-Islam nak paham. Lagi pun, seluruh Dunia... dah tak percaya pada Pak Arab. Arwah Harun Din sendiri pun... berubat dan bersemadi di Negara Kafir, Amerika....Aduh.
      Nota: Saya lebih respect pada Dr.M... dua kali belah dada... di HKL je.

      Kalau tak percaya berapa ganas & rakusnya Pak-Pak Arab.... tolong pergi ke Arab Saudi... bawa bini + dua-tiga orang anak-dara yang lawak-jelita. Nak tinggal ditepi jalan sekejap pun... tak berani... percaya la.

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    4. Gua tabik u, Sdr. RD. Good answer

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  17. Annie,

    Nice try...as long as any oraganisation under Rosemah's
    name...the people will have no faith in it.

    Don't you understand it Annie people are so muak...nak
    muntah bila dengar name Rosemah...and when they see her
    on TV rasa macam nak pecahkan TV...if they see her
    in person rasa nak trip dia kasi jatuh macam nangka.

    Annie...enough is enough. You cannot defend her anymore.
    Malaysians of all races see her like a devil in disguise.
    If wishes are true...probably all of us would wish both
    Rosemah and his wife Najib...vanish in thin air.

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    1. If it's Rosie, tak kan "thin" air, kan...hehehehe

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    2. Tu "fat air" lah!

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    3. hubby rosmah & wifey jibby ... it's too late to apologize to the rakyat


      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UeyZbQehSrI

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  18. Just after Jibby was appointed PM in 2009, he announced an initial budget of RM105 million for Permata.

    Surprise, surprise, the Permata Implementation Council is chaired by Jibby himself (like 1MDB. And TIA was also 2009, jeng jeng jeng. Good planning.). And surprise, surprise again, the Permata Working Committee is headed by none other than Rosie. Within just one year there was a request for an additional RM20 million by Permata, then further budget allocations of RM100 million and RM110 million in 2010 and 2011.

    So, that's at least RM300 million of taxpayers' money. We are entitled to ask: What exactly has this over RM300 million of taxpayers' money been spent on?

    Were there open tenders for the construction of new Permata centres, and for other relevant capital expenditure? Has there been any audit, say by the Auditor General, and if so, what are his findings?

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    1. najib o najib o najib...mak bapak lu ajar lu jadi pencuri ke...malu la najib....engkau ni betul2 haram jadah memalukan melayu sahaja.....dan nama negara pun dah busuk!

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  19. 10.15
    Awak aja berperasaan dan mempunyai hati macam Yahudi
    Who are the people you mentioned,Iam one of the people so does Annie....jgn SS
    Ada ke statistic Malaysian all races see Rosmah like Devil
    I think it is u is the Devil In Disguise
    Who is all of us,Iam not one of them...You think a very bad wishes that wants somebody to vanish in thin air will be granted...
    I can write here we or all of us here are muak with macaix like you who believe in presumptions,speculations heresay evidences esp from foreign sources rather than info right infront your eyes
    To conlude....PHD itu aja


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  20. people react this way because of how she looks.
    if rosmah looks like siti nurhaliza all sweet and innocent nobody will make noise of how much her bags are...lol
    anyway give credit when it is due lah....

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  21. Rafizi Bapok.....It was only a joke .,,
    Ini yg macaix percaya fitnah atas Rosmah
    Is Tun Hasmah as sweet as Neelofa....
    fully agreed...give credit when it is due
    Ini tidak....kutuk...kutuk

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  22. For those with very short memories:

    http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2015/07/10/published-details-of-rosmah-and-roslan-verified/

    Last year a guy paid RM2 million over the counter into Affin Bank into the account of Mrs.18%.

    After being caught, he denied even knowing her, then deleted his Facebook account.

    Too late, because it was shown that he'd travelled to 16 countries with the First Klepet, whoops couple.

    Where do you think that money came from?

    Any ideas?

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    1. Ha ha yeah...the money came from THE RAKYAT, lah!

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    2. Untuk selamatkan rayat dan negara kita harus berkorban nyahkan najb dari umno dan negara kerana dia rakyat berpecah islam malu kerana rasuah dan melayu dicemoh dia tak mengapa kerana dia bugis merempat.

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  23. OK, Annie.
    I reserve my comment on PERMATA.

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  24. RPK's now selling his offspring's "deep political analysis".

    (Knowing that creepy n' greedy old man, he'll extract even more $$$$$ from the PMO by telling them she's going to be a huge hit with the youth. Not.)

    Example of RPK Jnr's brilliance:

    “If your concern is the future of the Indians, and if you really believe that MIC cannot guarantee the future of the Indians, you can always turn to other parties, for example Gerakan,” she said in a text message.

    Aiyoooooo, *facepalm*

    Yes, let the Indians vote Gelakan, the party who's remained deadly silent while the Bugis lanun raped our pockets. And why is Daddy still trying to sell the Saudi prince lie, little girl?

    What a mess, LOLOL!

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  25. KAK SEMAH SHOPPING:

    RM520k for Chanel;

    RM60m for clothes, jewelry, car;

    RM28m for Nazir Razak,

    RM280k for son,

    RM176 m to Solar Shine,

    RM56 million to Jakel,

    Exotic Cars RM224k;

    RM3.75 million at De Grisogono;

    Plus RM25 million charged to credit cards.

    And we should trust her?

    All untrue facts?

    Then sue the WSJ.

    Kenapa x berani nak saman dorang?

    Because you have no control over US courts.

    Life is so simple.

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    1. Islam Mazhab UMNO......segala dosa dan noda semua ditutup dengan nama Allah, kalau dulu orang Melayu yang suka sumpah laknat dalam masjid, bersaksi dengan junjung Quran atau pakai ketayap putih bila kena tangkap melantak rasuah, mencuri dll...sesungguhnya Allah Maha Mengetahui Niat kamu...semua ini munafik dan hakikatnya mereka ini perosak agama...setahu aku yang takut Allah hanya Malaikat, sebab itu mereka sentiasa sujud dan taat perintah Allah...orang yang takutkan Allah tidak akan menghampiri dosa apatah nak lagi membuat dosa.

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  26. 09
    Betul ke yg dicatit
    Bukan dari Rafizi Sotong....terlibat buat fitnah..dia sendiri akui hanya nak buat lawak
    Bukan dari reliable sources
    Bukan dari those who familiar eith the matter or case
    Suka hati...
    Aku tengok Rosmah tu relax aja,sehat
    Yg melalak dan hati tak tenang orang macam kau aja
    Tengok kebanyakkan rakyat relax juga,weekend pergi recreational spots dgn family,shopping centres,blk kg,
    Apa nak jealous...itu dah rezeki dia,kalau dia buat doda pun serah saja pada ALLAH untuk pembalasan
    Has Rosmah made your life so miserable,I think you well deserved it with your kind of attitude that you possessed
    ...have a good day...
    Hati mesti baik bro...baru hidup tenang




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    1. sihat ke ? relax ke ?
      baru saja dimalukan satu dunia, nk pegi US dh x berani, anak pn kene sorok takut kene tahan. hari2 org asak.

      tp ye la. maybe mmg dia relax. like I said, = shameless.

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    2. bro kalau hati boleh tenang tgk kemungkaran...dgn bukti dan facts yang detail oleh pasukan siasatan doj... yg hanya kene deny pakai mulut tanpa bukti dan law action.. aku xtau nk ckp ape dh kt ko. hati ko yang bermasalah ni.....

      wallahualam.

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    3. Anon 07:46

      "Aku tengok Rosmah tu relax aja,sehat"

      Raut-muka dia... boleh la kita tengok. Tapi dihati dia... siapa yang tahu.
      Saya bukan apa. Takut dia 'putus' mana-mana 'wayar'... dalam kepala, je.

      "kalau dia buat doda pun serah saja pada ALLAH untuk pembalasan"

      Kalau mereka orang awam macam kita... boleh la kita serah pada Tuhan. Mereka Pemimpin tertinggi. Dosa pula kepada Rakyat 1Malaysia. Dosa kepada Allah... boleh lah kita mohon kemaafan dariNya. Tapi dosa antara manusia... TIDAK boleh di serah kepada Allah untuk dihapuskan.

      Mungkin pemahaman Saudara atau Saudari mengenai 'penghapusan' dosa... tidak berapa tepat atau tersasar.

      Saya bagi contoh:-
      Anak saya, darjah 5, pernah di'tangkap' abangnya, mencuri basikal jiran, 3 lorong dari rumah saya. (Mereka ketika itu, balik bercuti di kampung).
      Saya marah anak itu, dan suruh dipulangkan.

      Pada sebelah malamnya, saya nasihati dengan baik, tanpa menyebut sepatah pun pasal Neraka untuk menakut-nakutnya... ataupun, mengenai Pahala untuk buat dia seronok atau teruja. Tiada kisah potong-tangan.

      NB; Kanak-kanak zaman ini... banyak tengok cerita kartoon... SpongeBob, Donald Duck.. dll.

      Saya hanya katakan kepadanya: Kalau orang masuk dalam pagar dan curi barang kita... apa Arith rasa? Marah tak?
      Dia jawab: Ek-eleh Abah... Esok Arith besar... pergi Haji... habis la dosa Arith, Abahhhh.

      Termenung saya... Anon

      Saya tak pernah ajar anak-anak cara-cara atau ilmu 'penghapus' dosa, sesama manusia ataupun kepada Allah. Kalau saya 'tangkap' mereka menipu, saya akan berhenti senyum, tegur, melawak atau bergurau dengan anak itu. Saya beli coklat... banyak-banyak, dan beri pada yang lain-lain, tidak pada yang menipu. Sehinggalah... dia datang minta maaf kepada saya.

      Kesokannya... saya tidak lagi benarkan mereka pergi ke klass agama, sebelah petang. WANG pun jimat. Cukup setakat klass agama korikulum, sebelah pagi saja.

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  27. 10.08
    Wayar dia tak putus...tapi wayar sdr yg putus agaknya sebab munuduh orang lain tanpa bukti....ada doktor sahkan ke...
    Apa beza dia dari kalangan pemimpin tertinggi...dalam bab dosa tidak ada orang besar atau kecil...dosa tetap dosa
    Sdr tahukah apa dosa yg Rosmah telah lakukan pada rakyat...
    Cuba senaraikan satu jadi lah termasuk dengan buktinya sekali
    Kalau tuduhan tidak berasa sdr sudah membuat fitnah...sdr cukup arif dlm agama saperti yg sdr tuliskan..apa hukumnya fitnah di sisi agama kita
    Tahniah di atas cara sdr mendidik anak sdr...that is one of the method.There are thousand methods up to extend of canning our kids which is encourage by our Religion if our children disobey us
    09.03
    Ah ha...DOJ
    Apa hal dah masuk 3 bln...senyap aja
    Bukti dan facts...taik kucing la
    Heresay evidences,from reliable source la,fm those familiar with case la
    Undangx mana yg sdr ikut pihak yg dituduh tidak dipanggil untuk memberi keterangan....nanti malu sebab 1MDB akan cakap no money lost cfm by Audit Firm
    Tak panggil pun 3 orangg penyangak pada 22 Aug lepas untuk siasatan
    Why tak mention nama MO1...used your brain for the answer
    Why suddenly ASWJ cfm 2.6 Bil donation was fm Saudis...
    To add sour to the the grapes....samam Musam dan Mathew ditendang keluar oilh Hakim di US
    Itu sebab hati saya dan mungkin kebanyakkan rakyat tenang aja kerana tuduhanx yang bagi pendapat kami tidak berasas
    Yg membuat tuduhan pun tak konsisten,kejap hilang,kejap tidak sampai to the extend mengaku tidak ada bukti
    Habis macam mana,lebih baik relax dan terus kan hidup...apatah lagi keaadaan aman aja,bolih beradat,shopping,blk kg.
    Pse look at the realities and open your mind,do some reading to gather the correct facts and make a sound assessesment of what the news received whether it is factual or only presumptions and perceptions.Ask yourself why with all these harassing by foreign and internal media,practically most of the rakyat still stay calm and live peacefully.
    Jangan zalimi diri anda dgn terlalu emotional dan melibatkan diri secara total akan halx yg kita sendiri tidak dapat selesaikan
    Biarlah orang yg kita telah dipertanggungjawabkan menyelesaikan masaalah.Kalau mereka gagal kita tendang mereka apabila PRU nanti.....


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    1. Anon 14:50.

      Please don't go over the moon or jump to conclusion, too quickly... over Mathias/Husam's class-action withdrawal.

      That DoJ's case was a civil suit, so nobody have been criminally penalized,,, yet... until those named defendants could proof, beyond reasonable doubt, their source of funds was legitimate, otherwise... assets forfeiture and a criminal suit will ensue.

      And that was also why Red Granite Pictures was allowed to continue with their work on exciting new projects, so that its employees would not be deprived of their paycheck.

      And... most importantly... of which nobody on the side of Najib, pemakan-dedak or otherwise, dare not mention or forgot... Red Granite's future profits/earnings are frozen under *escrow funds... of sort.

      *As in real estate (specifically in mortgages), Escrow is also known in the judicial context. So-called escrow funds are commonly used to distribute money from a cash settlement in a class action or environmental enforcement action. This way the defendant is not responsible for distribution of judgment moneys to the individual plaintiffs or the court-determined use (such as environmental remediation or mitigation). The defendant pays the total amount of the judgment (or settlement) to the court-administered or appointed escrow fund, and the fund distributes the money (often reimbursing its expenses from the judgment funds)*
      End quote from Wiki.

      Therefore, you better hold on your horses and don't jump the gun... as yet. After-all... the voluntarily dismissal (by Mathias/Husam) was also done without prejudice, which will give them leeway to file a new legal action in the future, if they so desire. Obviously... after criminal proceeding commence.

      Process undang-undang kafir... memang lambat... untuk memberi cukup masa kepada tertuduh membuktikan mereka tidak bersalah. Bukan macam undang-undang Hudud. Ada 4 saksi... terus pancung atau sembelih mereka yang dituduh.

      By the way, Pompuan....Haven't you wonder, why... after DoJ's filing, the Board Directors of 1MDB, and even Deloitte, have disowned their... very-very late 2013 & 2014 Financial Statement? Wonder also why 2015's Financial Statement had not been reported? Its already coming to end of Sept.2016. Cannot find a replacement for Deloitte?

      Ape hal tangguh-tangguh Laporan KeWANGan 1MDB? Pemilihan Agong UMNO pun... tangguh-tangguh. Dah dekat 18 bulan tangguh-tangguh nih. Bila PM kesayangan you, nak umum PAU-2015?

      So... keep your fingers crossed, at all times, Anon 14:50.

      Nak tendang masa PRU macam mana. Dengan amalan Cash is King, gerrymandering, rasuah Rakyat, pecat-orang yang sebut pasal Jho Low & 1MDB. PAU pun tangguh-tangguh, MKN baru... inquest pun MKN berkuasa mansuhkan... tangkap orang tanpa waran... Belum tentu pun ... PRU14 akan diadakan. Buat di tangguh... bagaimana. Bukan kamu tak tahu... Najib suka tangguh-tangguh.

      Buta ke apa... kamu ni.

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  28. RD,
    On DOJ case you can do the spinning.As far as I am concerned the aim of these DOJ annoucing all the bullshit was to create unstabilities in Malaysia.To their surprise MO1 did not response and so the rakyat.They expected Arab Spring Type of demo,but that did not happened.Now quiet like tikus.What happened to the three penyangak suppose to be grilled on 22 Aug...habok pun tarak
    ASWJ...Also silienced now...no more terima dedak as imformers had gone into the holes as mice,shivering when to be exposed.cos Chief of Penjilat Kahak had admitted there was conspiracy and one of the Tan Sris had sabotaged.Used you brain la...who do you think instructed Timb Ketua Pemuda made a police report and IGP bawah ketiak siapa...apa ingat Najib bodoh ke...
    On 1 MDB Iam not a Maggie mee accountant and suffice for me to get all the revelant info by reading LSS Explainations and no point arguing with you
    Iam hoping you are not Muslim.If you are a Muslim..bertaubat lah.Sdr telah mempersendakan Hukum ALLAH ia itu HUDUD..I reserved my comment as I am not a Maggi Mee Ulama
    On PAU..Go and ask your Penjilat Kahak no 1 la...Dia yg buat dulu,kalau PRU dah dekat PAU di tanggohkan..kata biol marah
    Cash is King...who practiced this first.The student learned well from the master
    Who tendang people into custody without trial
    Who are you to predict what is going to happen in near future or are playing GOD
    Prove lah kata PM rasuah rakyat...BRIM..mAT saleh pun nak tiru kita la ni...Biol
    Siapa yg kena pecat..X AG pun dah admit he was pensioned off according to Undangx
    Orang BANGANG aja bolih tulis PRU bolih di tanggohx kan..Undangx tertulis tiapx 5 tahun...Orang Oppo mana nak ikut undangg.Mereka hanya puji bila ianya memihak mereka,kalau tidak,habis dikutuk...hipokrasi of the first Order
    Cuba beritahu apa benda yg PM tangguhx ni...tak faham laa
    Last but not least,conincide with your perangai suka spin and main tekax,malas cari facts sebenar....
    Iam not POMPUAN...That showed very well your weakness in assessing facts
    Neither I am blind
    Why should I kept my fingers crossed,I do not expect anything,if the real truth with solid facts prevail on Najib wrongdoing,I will be the first to KUTUK dia habisxan
    I think it is you should keep your fingers crossed hoping all the bullshits created to be successful tanpa tangguhx,tapi sayang 1MDB dah dekat setahun setengah...hasil .elek
    DOJ....macam tak releven aja kat Malaysia ni
    ASWJ....mula sunyi
    SR...Mengarut sampai Agong pun dilibatkan
    Penjilat Kahak NO 1 makin meroyan dan melatah..semua tak jadi
    Last sekali Protuns and Pakatoons frust MENONGGENG...



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    1. I'm sorry to refer you as 'Pompuan'. Its my mistake. I'd used, almost the same body-text when commenting in The Scribe, and missed deleting it, in Annie's.

      Orang bangang juga yang tidak boleh berfikir bagaimana nak tunda atau tangguhkan PRU. Siapa kata PRU14 tak boleh tangguh. Apa guna MKN yang baru tu? Cuma alasan saja yang perlu dicari. Daesh adalah yang paling 'sesuai'.

      Mengapa Najib, aka MKN, 'rampas' hak YDP Agong untuk mengistiharkan Darurat?
      Baju-Merah... siapa dan Party mana yang taja?
      Ok... Bersih pun ada tajaan... kalau bertembung, dan ada kematian... oh...mungkin pasal itu MKN boleh mansuhkan inquest?... supaya punca kematian tidak diketahui?
      Peluru dari penjenayah ke dari senjata Polis atau Tentera?
      Mayat dalam tong-drum? Altantuya di bunuh, 2 anggota Polis. Kommando.
      Nota: Untuk pengetahuan... saya bekas-tentera yang ditamatkan perkhidmatan kerana ksesalahan-kesalahan kecil. Pernah ditahan/hantar ke DQ, di Kinrara. Minta berhenti-tak diluluskan... jadi saya buat hal.

      Najib tangguh PAU 2015. Penyata Kewangan 1MDB 2013 tertangguh. Untuk 2014 pun tertangguh. Keluar serentak... bila DoJ buat dakwaan civil, 1MDB & Deloitte tidak lagi memperakuinya. (Cannot be relied upon).
      Untuk 2015 pun tangguh, tak keluar lagi >>> Macam mana orang nak percaya.
      Najib sebagai Menteri Kewangan, tubuh 1MDB dan guna Jho Low sebagai orang-tengah untuk berurusan bagi pihak Kerajaaan/Rakyat... tanpa dibawa berbincang dalam Kabinetnya sendiri. Yang sign document kelulusan... Mr.117... dia.

      Selain Jho Low... siapa Razak Baginda & Deepak Carpet... kepada Rakyat, Najib & Rosmah?
      Pegawai Kerajaan kah? Yang berlampak pegawai Kerajaan, mengapa tak guna?
      Kenalan rapat PM & isteri kah?

      Kalau kroni... ok, saya terima. Itulah adat atau resam berpolitik.

      - Berapa ribu rakyat dapat bekerja dengan Kroni-kroni Najib?
      - Berapa juta ringgit, kerajaan dapat kutip dari kroni-kroni Najib yang kaya-raya itu?

      Sebenarnya... saya pun macam Tun Dr.M juga. Masa Razak Baginda, Altantuya, cincin RM20 Juta, PRU 13 (saya undi BN)... bersunggoh-sunggoh, saya bela Najib & BN.

      Kalau tak percaya, kamu check posting lama-lama: LOA, Zamkata, AkadirJasin, OSTB (sekarang dah tak boleh. Dia delete posting, selepas sehari-dua), Dato Rocky Bru, Bujai- Just Read..... dari 2012, saya bela UMNO dan BN... SECARA suka-rela.
      Nota:
      Dari 2012; saya guna ID, RD. Sebelum itu, Anon & lain-lain samaran.

      Malah... saya pernah 'tegur' Dato Kadir Jasin kerana tabiat beliau, ketika itu, suka merujuk kepada Malaysia Kini dan portal pembangkang, yang terkenal dengan putar-belit atau spin, tersalah lapur, minta-maaf.

      Pada 2014... scandal Deepak Carpet pulak meletop. Ketika itu... saya berhenti komen, selama 3 bulan, kerana mula meragui Najib. Itu pun saya masih... memperbodohkan diri, membela UMNO & Najib, sekali-sekali. Tetapi.. semakin lama, semakin susah.

      Bila kes Yapiem mula meletop, saya cuba 'spin'... bila RBA tanya mengenai Yapiem.
      Saya jawab... bagus la buat di US, sekurang-kurang mahasiswa kita disana, ada juga penerangan mengenai perkawinan dan pergaulan lelaki-perempuan.
      RBA jawab; Hoi bodoh...Mereka bawa peserta dari Malaysia la... bahlol. Siap main golf, lagi. kamu buta & pekak kah?

      (bersambung)

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      Tapi... tak apa...saya dah lali, kena maki-hamun ni, di alam-maya la... kalau di alam-nyata, sudah tentu saya malu.

      Dr.M pun masih sokong UMNO, walaupun sekali-sekali menegur Najib.

      Bila tiba Jho Low... 'sayang' saya pada Najib, sebagai President UMNO, mula bergoyah... itu pun saya masih 'sayang' UMNO.

      Tapi, setelah semua yang menentang dan menyuarakan kebimbangan keatas 1MDB dipecat atau tersingkir dari UMNO... dan yang tinggal hanya penjilat Najib & Jho Low... 'sayang' saya kepada UMNO, sedikit demi sedikit, hilang.

      Kalau ahli UMNO sayang sangat pada Najib... OK, saya faham mengapa.

      Saya sudah ada Party lain yang saya percaya boleh menjaga Bangsa, Agama dan Negara dengan lebih jujur & ikhlas dari UMNO. Pada saya, UMNO hari kan mencemarkan lagi kesucian agama Islam dalam keadaan dunia yang sudah pun berperangsangka buruk terhadap Islam.

      Saya juga berpandangan sama dengan Dr.M mengenai Hudud, dari sudut kesesuaian perlaksanaannya dalam masyarakat yang berbilang-bangsa seperti Malaysia. Hakikatnya... tiada satu Negara-Islam didunia pun yang boleh dijadikan contoh teladan, dari segi keamanan, kemakmuran, kemajuan ekonomi dan scientific... untuk kita contohi.

      Dr.M tak pernah sebut benda ini. Saya sendiri yang kata: Hudud adalah ciptaan manusia. Dan... saya tak setuju, Party Politik mengunakan Agama sebagai modal menarik sokongan pengundi.

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  29. RD.
    Thank you for lengthy reply
    If you was an x ARMY...If Officer...What intake..Regular or SSC,Sandhurst ,Portsea,Fort Banning or just RMC Iron River/Sebatang Karah....and lastly your former Corp and Regimental numbers
    It is not necessary for you to write such long replies of what you had done before and nothing can change your mindset on which side you are.Same goes to me,whether we like or not we will produce our arguements which we know best
    Honestly even some harsh words had been written by me,there are no hard feelings existed.I like this kind of interactions as it made me stay alert and productive...Thank you..have a nice day and SALAM

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  30. Untuk pengetahuan Saudara Anon 23:49.

    Jika Saudara ingin mengetahui , serba sedikit lagi mengenai diri saya dan apa yang saya percaya berlaku ketika insiden Memali dan Amok Prebet Adam... sila baca bahagian komen Just Read, seperti di URL berikut:-

    http://justread-whatever.blogspot.com/2016/08/musa-hitam-unloads.html

    &.... yang paling mustahak...

    http://justread-whatever.blogspot.com/2016/08/dr-m-under-attack-again.html

    Thank you, Annie.

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  31. Salam to you too.

    But... I sorry, I can't tell you every detail of my past, especially my BAT.C10 number. There're some things that I should just kept to myself.

    Thank you & have a nice day too.

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  32. I support Permata but i don`t support Rosmah and Najib and they need to fuck off from abusing and enriching themselves and you can`t argue your pathetic way out off this tragic duo
    im still waiting for defamation sue against WSJ, and what are these bastard waiting for? If PM claimed he is soo innocent and tengah kumpul pahala

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  33. Moron...support the org but do not support the chief organiser/patron.Better checked your brain.if not you are f......g yourself
    Najib is not stupid...
    Until now tak ada apa pun on 1MDB..senyap aja
    Ada 2 ekor tu kan dah malu...nak saman tapi kes kena tendang..no merit.
    Masa saman rioh pukul gendang,la ni sunyi sepi menikus..
    DOJ...pun sunyi sepi
    SR...ngaku terima fund untuk spin
    ASWJ..Buat spin baru kata Najib beli beli 4 baju mahal dalam 1 hari untuk Rosmah,kalau setahun,makna 356 baju Jang,ponoh lah Rumah PM..
    Itu pun ditelan bulatx olih YB DAP buat laporan.Bayangkan lah kalau ada kes,berapa lori nak digunakan nak bawa bajux sebagai bukti
    I think Najib and Rosmah are receiving the pahala until now as all plan to topple them failed since 2 yrs ago each day truth came out one by one




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  34. I ask one question-many chinese family younger member aged around 13 to 16 suffer mental or pyschological problems due to demand to make it in schools or about the near future -what they can do to work after school.I knew many.I the past there no government agency to support- 1970-2000.
    There are many government aided NGo-agency now-Did they even
    think of helping or even consider this group of people-I mean-the chinese or indian section of malaysian.Please over
    praise government agency if you have not seen or experience the suffering of these people.I also blame the chinese for not willing to learn about pyschology especially about their
    children in these difficult transition period.
    There is a news story where a chinese doctor son took his own life due to rejection by his peer and general high expectation of a chinese family-expected to but it up on his
    effort as expected by chinese family

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