Wednesday, 18 December 2013

It's love, stupid

I had dinner with a friend who is a former colleague tonight.

She is a Chinese and look very much like this,


We mostly talk about our works, life and a bit of politics.

As it is with most Chinese these days, she is a DAP supporter.

So, I refrained from going too heavy with the political stuff as this is one friend I really like and don't want too lose, especially not over an argument on whether Tony Pua is a handsome Chinese genius or just an ugly opportunist piece of pig crap.

At one point of our conversation she told me about another dinner she had the previous evening with one of her friends whom I do not know.

My friend had told her friend, who is a Christian Chinese lady that she is considering marrying a Malay muslim guy.

My friend is officially a Taoist, but actually a freethinker.

She had specifically mentioned that her friend is a Christian because of the immediate hostile reaction she received over that piece of information and its rather religious tone.

"My friend was dead against the idea of me marrying a Malay guy as it will not only breaks the heart of my parents but also the fact that the Malay guy is a Muslim, which means that he can marry more than once," she said.

"And even worse, my friend said once I converted and marry a Muslim, I can never get out of the religion," she added.

I told my friend that what she was told by her Christian friend were all true.

It is not a small thing for a non-Muslim to marry a Muslim in this country. It requires a lot of sacrifices.

It's a lot easier if my friend choose to marry a Christian man. In fact, it's even very fashionable if she is to convert to Christianity, took on a Christian name like Hannah or Theresa or Regina and get married in a church. Very much like in the movies.

I told my friend she needs to think really carefully whether she really love that Malay Muslim boyfriend of hers. Is he really worth it?

Being a Muslim is indeed a lot tougher than being a Christian.

For instance, Muslims' role models are mostly Arabs and Middle Eastern people, who are not really a very fashionable bunch of people.

Christians' role models in contrast are more fashionable, They are mostly Americans and Europeans.

Muslims can't eat pork too.

Being a child of a Malay-Chinese marriage, I advise my friend not to be too hasty with her decision on the matter

I told her how when as a little girl I had wondered why my father look so ugly as his appearance is so different from what my mother and myself looked like.

I also told my friend how my father has till now not being fully accepted by my mother's family.

My friend was quiet as I go on and on about the disadvantages of a Chinese girl marrying a Malay guy.

I also mentioned that the guy, whom I know very well, is not even handsome or rich. In fact my friend earns more than the guy.

I even throw in a bit of exaggeration about how the DAP is going to take over the running of the country and Malays will be reduced to second, third, fourth and fifth class citizens. That one I borrowed from Lim Guan Eng. Just changed the ethnicity a bit la.

She only opened her mouth after I had finished all that I can think of to discourage her from getting into such a complicated life-long life arrangement.

"But he is so smart and funny and I love him so much," was her only and rather quiet response.

That one, I cannot help la, I said quietly in my heart.

79 comments:

  1. thers only 2 things best about chinese u other than that the chinese all get F in every character they have... menipu tamak suka buat bising menyalak..

    the 2 good things are
    1.the food is good except babi n biawak la
    2.the chinese female body curve is yummy

    heheee

    hey the rest the chinese FAILED laa bermuka muka prostite gambler all sins things

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    1. i'm chinese. my mummy used to cane me and get mad when i was small boy go outside fly kite with these sort of cina:

      r-rate
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtW2kO_Fe4U

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  2. I am "Indian"Muslim . My wife is Chinese. We are happy :)
    My wife's family is just the best family in the world to me. I love dearly.
    Likewise my family is sometimes closer and dearer to my wife than to me nowadays. hmmm.
    We have so much fun with inter racial/religious conundrums.
    I wish them all the best.
    It IS awesome.
    ps: I don't have any plans for any more wives ;)

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    1. Re. I am "Indian"Muslim . My wife is Chinese. We are happy :)

      Alhamdulillah.

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    2. Salaams bro., I think the Prophetic counsel for choosing a woman as a life partner consists of 4 things to consider:

      1. her piety and spirituality
      2. her physical beauty
      3. her breeding and family background
      4. her social status and personal assets.

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    3. Classical contemplations on love, longing, intimacy and contentment:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG5mghUs1e8

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  3. I have known of some inter-racial Malay-Chinese couples who chose to marry in Singapore under civil registration that preserve both their religions.
    In fact, one of them is son of a hardcore UMNO Wanita state leader.

    Wealthier and cosmopolitan Malaysians marrying Westerners in civil marriages overseas also get to keep their own faiths without complications.
    So it's done all the time by Malaysians working and staying overseas...
    Haha.

    ~ Kluang girl

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    1. Sounds like PAKATAN RAKYAT....

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    2. Kluang girl,

      I always read your comments and they never fail to amuse me. Do you know for a fact that a "kluang" is a BINATANG that sleeps upside down and drinks its own urine? That's the anology to you and your way of thinking and rational most of the time.

      See here

      http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Rtu_oQzM3NE/TZ1-wXP7BsI/AAAAAAAAAnw/K1zv9aSxvsE/s1600/DSC02003.JPG

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    3. this person is the most stupid moronic ever on earth why dun u suggest u being a whore n get rm200 per hour per fuck u bitch

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    4. Kluang girl,

      I'm married to a Mat Salleh guy and he converted to Islam prior to our marriage. We got married in Malaysia and now is settled in his country. Majority Malays would only agree to marry foreigners (non-Muslims) if they are willing to convert to Islam.

      To the women,

      If you cannot find a good Malay Muslim man to marry, the next best thing is a Mat Salleh. The worst is a chinkie guy. Even an Indian guy is better than a chinkie.

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    5. Re. suggest u being a whore n get rm200 per hour per fuck u bitch

      Unfortunately there are too many PROSTITUTES here in Malaysia OLEDI and dominated by Mainland Chinese (you know the one with the same DNA of Malaysian Chinese, not the Baba Chinese ya, coz the Baba Chinese are descendants of Palace People, I suggest you read the history of Chinese Diaspora).

      At RM200? Wow you must a regular customer or used to be one yourself before...

      BITCH? It takes a BIGGER BITCH to know another BITCH.. ..

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    6. anon 20:27, why so angry, get fucked by boss izzit ?

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    7. Re. why so angry, get fucked by boss izzit ?

      Approaching Menopause...so hot flesh is common and soon entering the Dried UP "V" era, who wants to fuck her by then?

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    8. Anon 21:24 is a fine example of someone who is narrow minded. " Malays will marry foreigners if they are willing to convert" she says, why can' the Malay convert to the spouce's beliefs? Malays are the only race in the world which needs laws to define themselves. Anyone could become a Malay if he or she fulfill the criteria. What a load of horse shit. The Malay race doesn't exist, the word Malay was invented by Rusell Wallace for ease of his research and reinforced by umno for political mileage.

      Are they any Malays in Indonesia? This hocus pocus word called Malays is purely a twisted word fabricated by the colonialist for adminstrative reasons.

      "My husband converted to Islam before marriage"........I'm sure he convert for his deep understanding and love for Islam & not to facilitate a hassle free marriage to a Muslim in Malaysia. Are you sure he doesn't enjoy the odd bacon and egg sandwich once a while.

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    9. Re. Malays are the only race in the world which needs laws to define themselves.

      Ethnicity refers to the fact or state of belonging to a social group that has a common national or cultural tradition. By this definition, it gives certain prerequisite requirement (law) of becoming of a specific race, this applies to all ethnicity in the rest of the world e.g Asian, Caucasian, Hispanic, Persian, Arab etc. you can't be any of the race without having their characteristic.

      Re. Are they any Malays in Indonesia?

      Malaysia, Indonesia, Singapura and the Islands within this region is known as Malay Archipelagos or Kepulauan Melayu not Kepulauan Cina or India. Even Malaysia was known as Tanah Melayu long before not Tanah Cina or Tanah India. Cina dan India hanya pendatang dari awalnya, dengan ehsan raja-raja Melayu mereka menerima Jus Soli dan dapat jadi warganegara. Di Brunei orang Cina tak diberi Kerakyatan selepas Merdeka kerana Sifat BURUK ORANG CINA Malaysia.

      Re. Anyone could become a Malay if he or she fulfill the criteria.

      Give me the said criteria and I will verify them. Again read the definition of ethnicity.....

      Re. The Malay race doesn't exist,

      Oh really? By that logic you being Chinese or Indian do not exist as well because I can use the same logic , whereby since you are the minority here and Majority rules, So as Majority I decalre you don't exist...

      Tak Suka? You know our Favorite Answer...

      Where did you go to school SJKC or SJKT? ROTFL



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    10. Re. why can' the Malay convert to the spouse's beliefs?

      A Muslim with a strong Islamic Belief will not trade his/her religion for love....

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  4. Ask your friend to marry a rich non muslim guy la. Even the Malay women are abandoning the Malay guys for Pakistani, Bangladeshi, Caucasions and etc. If she wants to jump into the fire by marrying the Malay guy, then so be it. When poverty and problems knock on the front door, love leaves through the back door.

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    1. Re. If she wants to jump into the fire by marrying the Malay guy, then so be it.

      First thing first, many 'Pompuan Cina" who married a Malay guy always look for money. Sebab Cina ni semua mata duitan dan hidup bertuhankan DUIT.

      Tak pernah lagi dengar cerita Pompuan Cina kahwin dengan lelaki Melayu Miskin.

      Re. When poverty and problems knock on the front door, love leaves through the back door.

      Very true. Just like most Chinese Male who left their family through backdoor because of Along. Tak Percaya? Pergi check dengan Community Service Center Parti yang dah hampir PUPUS aka MCA tu... Dalam paper [un selalu keluar.

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    2. Semua hujah Annie tentang kesukaran yang bakal dihadapi pasangan berkahwin campur , sama ada antara bangsa yang berbeza atau agama yang berlainan adalah benar.
      Semuannya terpulanglah sama ada rasa cinta antara mereka amat mendalam dan kebijaksanaan pasangan itu dalam mengendalikan bahtera kehidupan yang akan menentukan kebahagian rumahtangga.
      Amat menarik kalau ada kajian tentang statistic % perceraian yang melibatkan perkahwinan campur dengan perkahwinan yang 'biasa'
      Cuma saya hendak komen sedikit tentang pendapat rakan, kawan Annie dalam hal ini, "....the fact that the Malay guy is a Muslim, which means that he can marry more than once,"
      Yes, the Muslim guys can married more than one. But how many Muslims men have more than one wife? In my entire kampong not even one, has more than one wife!
      The others dont have the gut to allow their menfolk to have more than one wife legally. Are sure they have only one wife? Ok they have only one wife but how many 'bini' that they kept?
      Men are men. Allah swt create them as they are, regardly their race or religion. There are a reasons why Islam allowed the men to marry more than one wife. I am not going to that aspect. ( nanti keluar tajuk pulak! )
      But says the Al Quran,..... kalau tidak mampu kahwinilah sahaja seorang wanita.( lebih kurang itu maksudnya)
      Annie sendiri mempunyai ayah beragama Islam dan berbangsa Melayu. Adakah ayah Annie ada isteri lain selain dari ibu anda?
      Sungguhpun begitu saya tidak rela pasangan yang berkahwin berlainan agama kecuali Islam.
      Agama Islam adalah agama yang lengkap datang dari Allah swt. Semua aspek hidup ada dalam Al Quran dan dihuraikan lebih lanjut melalui hadith dan sunnah Nabi.
      Malah cara bersama isteri ada diterangkan serta larangan mendatangi isteri dari 'belakang'
      Itu sebab kalau saya tidak silap ada komentar dalam blog Annie atau yang lain mengatakan agama Islam itu ada 'ada cerita sex'
      Masya Allah amat 'naive' pendapat itu. Bukankah sex itu sebahagian dari hidup makluk Allah yang bernyawa. Tanpa sex mana mungkin lahirnya manusia kecuali kejadian Adam dan Hawa serta kelahiran Nabi Isa as.

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  5. Annie, I have always been curious, say a Muslim marry more than 1, lets say he has 4 wives. Can he sleep with all 4 at the same time? I would hate to think about the logistics involved in such feats though.

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    1. Re. Can he sleep with all 4 at the same time?

      Logically no woman with the right and sane mind would want to have that "orgy session" unless they are PROSTITUTES. The only living thing that I know of that shares multiple partners at the same time is pig.

      In Islam there is a term call "aurat" that have to be observed not only between man and woman (except for husband and wife), but also between a man with another man or a woman with another woman. While the definition of aurat differs between man and woman, the requirement to cover the intimate part applies to both man on woman. Please google what is aurat for man and woman.

      Thus there is a boundary that need to be observed in order to uphold dignity and decency.

      Although I am sure there is a psycho sex maniac husband who has done that before, still the intimate relationship is only restricted between a husband and one wife each time. Thus the wife has to take turn. The following is an excerpt in Malay based on Islamic teaching plus the link that explains others about husband and wife relationship.

      "Hak Mendapat Giliran dengan Adil (jika isteri Lebih dari Satu)

      Apabila sang suami beristeri lebih dari satu maka berkewajiban atasnya menggilir semua isteri-isterinya dan menjadi hak setiap isteri untuk medapatkan giliran untuk ditiduri oleh sang suami. Diriwayatkan dari ‘Aisyah ra. berkata, “Rasulullah saw. menggilir para isterinya dan berlaku adil dalam hal itu. Beliau berkata: “Ya Allah, inilah pembagianku dalam menggilir isteri-isteriku yang aku mampu. Maka, janganlah Engkau mencelaku dalah hal yang Engkau mampu sementara aku tidak mampu.”

      http://manhajuna.com/hak-dan-kewajiban-antara-suami-dan-isteri-bagian-3-dari-3/

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    2. To put it simple, ask Alvivi. They are not Muslim and not even married but they are having sex with more than one women at the same time.

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    3. Anon 16:48, at least they never claim to be holier than thou, unlike some Malay people who take the moral high ground, tell how many married Malay man or women will not jump at the chance to have a go at someone's wife/husband, girlfriend/boyfriend.

      You sound like a good candidate for the new Syariah Cop Unit being set by UMNO.

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    4. Anon 16:48

      Alvivi is just one story. There are cases where Chinese father and son who share the same Indonesian Maid behind the wife/mother.

      My apology to the Indonesians who read this but this is not CERITA KARUT. It was reported in a paper before and was told by colleague at the office before. It was not a sex abused case but of mutual consent as the maid is paid extra monthly by both father and son.

      For the record not all Indonesian made are Muslims, many of them are Christian as well. Some even if they are Muslim their version of Islam and belief are different from here. There are stories that some even have husband on both sides of the straits of Melaka..

      So Chinese Wives, if you are under the DRIED UP "V" category be wary of your hubby and sons... While you gurls are "KUTUKING" the Muslim women who "suffer" (according to you) for having to share husband due to polygamy, your husband and son(s) are happily patronizing your maid and the illegal REBAN AYAM regularly.

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    5. Re, unlike some Malay people who take the moral high ground

      This is the JOKE of the Century just like urban Myth. The Chinese claims that

      1. Rasuah - GOMEN/MALAY/UMNO/POLIS are the culprits yet they are the biggest givers and won't admit the fact and just sweep the fact under the carpet;

      2. Sex - They claim that Muslims men are sex crazy yet the Chinese men are the biggest BAPAK AYAM in the country and Chinese Women both local and PRC are majority of the PROSTITUES judging by so many illegal Reban AYAM in this country;

      3. They said that they are God fearing creature as well, but nobody knows which God they worship, if any UGLY BALD BETTY's case of shaving head at the temple when she is not even Buddhist or Taoist is one prime example;

      4. They said they are the biggest tax payers but they forget that other people pay tax too but never/hardly cheat to the maximum like their community. Itu sebab GOMEN introduce GST;

      5. Now the GOMEN is talking about BLACK MONEY. Guess who are the people behind this?

      6. They look highly to SINGAPORK and complain day in and day out about this country. Yet they are still here, even the Malaysian Cina Singapork PR still won't give up their citizenship;

      7. They insults the Malay Sultans, yet they forget that without the Malay Sultan's CONSENT, they wont get the "Jus Soli"

      That's the HYPOCRISY TO THE HIGHEST ORDER of Cina DAP.

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    6. Since when Malay (Muslim) ever claim holier than thou? Do they claimed holier than thou because they marry more than 1? What I hear more monogamist who claimed they are holier than thou because of their monogamy practice but secretly pasang perempuan simpanan or having casual sex with girls and pros.

      Look at how this Chinese bloke Steven Chan pretends to be holier than thou
      http://jebatmustdie.wordpress.com/2013/12/04/stevie-chan-blames-muslims-for-all-the-social-ills-in-malaysia/

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    7. anon 18:21...
      1. like Najib once said....beri salah, tak beri kalah !
      2. it is all UMNO fault by allowing so many PRC girl enter the country to 'work' here !
      3. it is between a person relationship with god, no need to label on it.
      4. the biggest kaki tipu is UMNO. Kata tak naik tol sebelum PRU, tapi lepas PRU semua kasi naik. The sad things is UMNO goons are supporting of tol naik !!
      5. Black money ? siapa lagi, geng UMNO lah. Contohnya,MB N9 Hassan RM10 million.
      6. SGD1.00 = RM2.50....
      7. dulu UMNO pon insult the Sultans, apa jadi ? Can give example how the Chinese insult the Sultan ar ? Jangan cakap dan syiok sendiri saje.

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    8. It looks like anon 18:21 suffered from foot in the mouth disease. Urban myth ? Yo, jangan macam anjing menyalak bukit, okay !

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    9. i also curious why chinese god dun wear shirt perut buncit tak sejuk ke malam malam lol

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    10. anon 20:28, don't be silly, dah pakat god mana takut sejuk lagi ?

      lol

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    11. 1. like Najib once said....beri salah, tak beri kalah !

      What you call rasuah among UMNO/Melayu is Entertainment Allowance among your BANGSA.

      Please provide me the reference regarding Najib's saying.Jangan suka memfitnah...Otherwise I will cut and paste this and lodge a police report. It is very easy for MMC to trace your IP...


      2. it is all UMNO fault by allowing so many PRC girl enter the country to 'work' here !

      Ye ke? UMNO suruh diorang Jadi Prlacur ke? Orang Indon, Bangla, Nepal pun datang juga tapi tak pulak KERJA JUAL NONOK.

      3. it is between a person relationship with god, no need to label on it.

      Very true, but please don't be a HYPOCRITE ...

      4. the biggest kaki tipu is UMNO. Kata tak naik tol sebelum PRU, tapi lepas PRU semua kasi naik. The sad things is UMNO goons are supporting of tol naik !!

      Very true... let's go through some of CINA experiences

      a. GENEVA/SWISS GOLD Money Laundering RM5 Billion cina yang punya;

      b. Along? Cina juga

      c. DVD Cetak Rompak? Cina Juga

      d. Pelacuran? Cina Juga

      e. The datuk who got caught with More than RM1 Billion drug bust in Kluang where the Container was stopped in Negeri Sembilan? Cina juga

      f. CEC Debacle ? Cina Juga

      Eh... banyaklah lagi kalau nak beri contoh,,,

      5. Black money ? siapa lagi, geng UMNO lah. Contohnya,MB N9 Hassan RM10 million.

      Betul tu...Tak lama lagi akan berita berbillion RM dan tokeynya rata-rata Cina


      6. SGD1.00 = RM2.50....

      RM is a managed float currency to protect our export products and attract more investment. It is not freely tradeble like SGD in open market.

      SGD is a currency business for Singapork as Major source of income as a result read here...

      "Singapore's central bank posted a S$10.61 billion ($8.39 billion) net loss in its last fiscal year as the local dollar's gains against the yen and euro diminished the value of its foreign currency holdings. "

      vs

      KUALA LUMPUR: Bank Negara Malaysia posted a higher net profit of RM5.600 billion for the financial year ended Dec 31, 2012 as compared to RM4.724 billion in 2011.

      Read more: Bank Negara posts RM5.6b net profit in 2012 - Latest - New Straits Times http://www.nst.com.my/latest/bank-negara-posts-rm5-6b-net-profit-in-2012-1.238539#ixzz2npu2gUh6


      7. dulu UMNO pon insult the Sultans, apa jadi ? Can give example how the Chinese insult the Sultan ar ? Jangan cakap dan syiok sendiri saje.

      Sila buktikan laporan bila UMNO hina Sultan? Jangan cakap ikut BURIT..

      Melinda Gooi hina Yg DiPertuan Agong, Anak Cina Penang tunjuk isyarat "Fuck You" pada Raja Permaisuri Agong dan pun kena Penjara Setahun. Melinda Gooi belum lagi, harap-harap dia pun akan disumbat dalam PENJARA SEGERA

      Please verify all your claims with facts and references...

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    12. Re. Urban myth ?

      "a humorous or horrific story or piece of information circulated as though true, esp. one purporting to involve someone vaguely related or known to the teller"

      Look at the parallel of the "myth" and fact given and understand the satirical expect of it i.e. the Chinese Hypocrisy


      Re. Yo, jangan macam anjing menyalak bukit, okay !

      Macam orang Cina yang selalu "Cry Victim" incessantly you mean?

      Re. suffered from foot in the mouth disease.

      Would you like a glass of water to wash that foot in your down now?

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  6. Re. "And even worse, my friend said once I converted and marry a Muslim, I can never get out of the religion," she added.

    Itulah yang dikatakan Cina ni bodoh tak boleh diajar, Pandai Tak boleh Di Ikut. Masuk Islam sebab nak Kahwin, Bukan sebab ikhlas dan percaya pada Allah dan Rasulnya.

    Bila dapat laki perangai macam Setan lepas kahwin, mula menyalahkan Islam dan Melayu. I have known many of them...

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    1. re: "My friend is officially a Taoist, but actually a freethinker."

      So are most of my Chinese friends. Suffice it to say that almost none have ever studied the one authentic treatise of Taoist spiritual philosophy :- Lao Tze's "Tao Te Ching".

      The Grandmaster Lao Tze taught: "Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength, while loving someone deeply gives you courage. I have just three things to teach:- simplicity, patience, & compassion. These three are your greatest treasures."

      I hope Annie's friend's Malay fiance is spiritual at heart and Sufi in spirit.

      Modern master teaches about Tao and humanity:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5LGgc6hyKQ&list=PLF8F6EF4B1A0FF55A

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    2. Re. I hope Annie's friend's Malay fiance is spiritual at heart and Sufi in spirit.

      When it comes to sex, man regardless of any religion will think with "other head first". They never think about the responsibilities that come with it.

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    3. To Anon 08:07,

      Please don't say that. Allah S.W.T. opens heart to Islam in many ways. I know many converts who became Islam by marriage, for the marriage but end up being better Muslim than many of the born.

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    4. Anon 16:51

      While it is true that Allah S.W.T. opens heart to Islam in many ways. But human being human, he/she always forget to think rationally.

      I have friends who are in that situation now. Sebelum kahwin apa pun boleh, bila datang ujian mula menyalahkan takdir, Allah dan Melayu. I think one has even become MURTAD after the divorce and only close circle of friends know that.

      Another one is still married despite all the complaints about the husband, and every now and then Islam and Melayu. Yet she herself has been sleeping around with other guys to her material advantage.

      Itu sebab dalam Quran ada sebut:

      Allah S.W.T berfirman, “Perempuan yang jahat untuk lelaki yang jahat dan lelaki yang jahat untuk perempuan yang jahat, perempuan yang baik untuk lelaki yang baik dan lelaki yang baik untuk perempuan yang baik.” (an-Nur':26)

      http://pernikahanbarakah.blogspot.com/2006/11/lelaki-baik-untuk-perempuan-baik.html


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    5. Re. I hope Annie's friend's Malay fiance is spiritual at heart and Sufi in spirit.

      "When it comes to sex, man regardless of any religion will think with "other head first". They never think about the responsibilities that come with it."

      Anon 15:07, you mean sex is like love?

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y36UQKkQAtY

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    6. Re. you mean sex is like love?

      Depends on which community that you belong to for instance:

      a. Islam

      Sex is legal between Husband and Wife. Thus you can consider it is part of love. Outside marriage it is considered ZINA dan Kalau dapat anak, dikira ANAK HARAM.

      b. Christian

      Both within Marriage and Out of Wedlock is called making love... I guess that's why the Anak Haram is called Love Chill among the Christian community and Anak Sah, just Anak...

      C. Buddhist

      I frankly have no idea, but sex before marriage is pervasive and I know for a fact that a couple can stay with the parents even before they get married.

      The Thais are Buddhist and they are a very religious lot. I was made to understand that sex is an act of love according to their culture (not sure based on Buddhism). That is why the sex trade is flourishing in Thailand, since it is not taboo. In Bangkok it is common for Husband to sent their wife to work in GoGo Bar according to my Thai friend (please help me to verify this) or the GoGo Boy are straight guys mostly..

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  7. If it's involving Love, you cannot do anything Annie. At least tell them about the negative side first (and that's my way too) and when she nearly converted tell her about the positive side. A few of my friends go thrue the conversions to Islam even their married plan go AWOL. And their family accepted their decision too. It's the best way I for me to make sure they really want to not have to.

    :Dsarah

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  8. Love conquers all, problem is what happens after all the love has gone, hmm.

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  9. Islam, love and caring ( towards The One God-that will show your humankind, people around you, animals and other living things)

    Islam says be kind to your enemies. However when they provoke your kind behaviours, its your right (wajib) to protect your families, your relatives, your souls and your properties.

    The true love is to Allah SWT. Next to your parents where your moms come first, second, third and lastly your fathers. Next to your brothers and sisters. Next your close relatives. Then only come your sacrifices - your hearts and your love ones that probably end in marriages and having your own families whereby inclusiveness come, to cater the whole big families of yours, including your inlaws. Thats life.

    The stupid part that most non muslims against Islam, P. Ramlee already said - satu, ramai sekali ; dua, bukan senang( I ubah sikit) ; tiga, kadang-kadang ; empat, jarang-jarang sekali. So which part are they afraid of. Its one's choice ayway. The similar bad choices of non muslims that have secret wives or mistresses !

    Like annie said - that is love, stupid ! (annie bertambah bijak....)





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  10. Love is blind. We all wish Malaysian people are colored blind of love. Racial intermarriages will be our daily events and then Malaysian will live in peace and in perfect harmony. Malaysians will progress in their names at least.

    The signatures of Malaysian be, the first name is Ismail, middle name is Tong and the last name is Aparagam or the other way around in sequence depend on the man ethnicity. If he is an Indian, his son who is married to a Malay girl, he will be named Ismeal Aparagam, Tong or Chong as the middle name is an option. What about Ismeal Tong Aparagam? Malaysia will live happily ever after.

    On the second thought, it be better off for Malaysia to be the way it is. At least, I can belasah the Chinese's DAP individually. Truly enough, I like it.

    As someone remarks, there are nothing impossible in this world. But Malaysia is known as advertised Malaysia is truly Asia. Indeed it is impossible if marriage for love without serious sacrifices, followed by then be nailed to the cross and make payment without worthy of everlasting love.

    However, I am good looking feller and fatly rich chap. I am willing to sacrifices for her and convince her that we can learn to love each other and at the same time learn not to love your friend. After all, Love is about in the making of love and love making in a platonic love anyway. I will go for, 'woman gives love for sex and man gives sex for love.' I read it somewhere in Reader Digest.

    She can remain a free thinker. I remain whatever I am but we have to migrate to the United States. We can have a civil marriage arrangement before the Commissioner in Las Vegas, problem solved. But with one condition, is she as good looking as posted?How about that Annie?

    You said you did not want to loose her. I hope you don't mean that you have eyes on her and wish her to be your companion of the same sex, you can be a partner, a woman with man desires. I sense you are doubtful about the man she loves. He is not handsome or rich and his earning is much less than hers. Not forgetting you are not going to loose her if I am her choice.

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  11. Tell yr fren to just forget him la, not worth the trouble.
    She earns more than him.whas the use. He will only be a liability to her in the future. When the novelty wears off he will use it as an excuse to find another woman. These malay men have been brainwashed ever since they were young to think that it is their right to marry more than one and the malay women too have been brainwashed eversince they were young that they can still go after married men.. And blame it on jodoh and fate. See how easy it is to brainwash these malays..just use religion and they will not question it. Thats how many ustad and ustazah make money. Use religion to justify every statement and people will not question them. Thats why some ustad can drive ferrari ma...
    Just givin my two cents worth.

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    1. Re. These malay men have been brainwashed ever since they were young to think that it is their right to marry more than one and the malay women too have been brainwashed eversince they were young that they can still go after married men.. And blame it on jodoh and fate.

      And the Chinese happily imported AYAM from China and Vietnam, and set up the ILLEGAL REBAN AYAM (RUMAH URUT) all over the country and claim that is business.

      That's how the Chinese makes money through sex trade...

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    2. Re, too have been brainwashed ever since they were young

      By the same logic according to Anon 13:04, Chinese Boys have been brainwashed to have multiple and indiscriminate sex partners and the Chinese Girls have been brainwashed to become PROSTITUTES and GRO.

      I guess the saying that you are what you eat is always right after all:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzMy4o4mRGM

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  12. Dear annie, I think you should stick to political blogging, I think you' re confused between a muslim and arab/middle eastern. We don't need to model the arabs and follow their culture, us muslim just share the same faith when we pray in malaysia so does our brothers & sisters all over the world. The way you write your article it seems you think that being a muslim is a burden. You do know that Islam is an extension of judeo-christian, its a newer version of Judaism and christianity (Protestant, cause catholic is tainted with roman paganism). Don't tell me you're still using windows 95? Polygamy is a solution, you do know that in some countries there's more female than male and now since thailand & vietnam have allowed gay marriages, men sacrificed in war, certainly there's whole lot more female than male. What other solution do you have. Annie you're a great blogger. politically but leave religion aside, doesn't mean you're good at making apam balik doesn't mean you're good at baking choc cake. Stick to your forte

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    1. Jacque Fresco talks about Politics, Science, Money, Religion, War & Democracy.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEEp0Btjgt4

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    2. Re. Annie you're a great blogger. politically but leave religion aside, doesn't mean you're good at making apam balik doesn't mean you're good at baking choc cake. Stick to your forte

      She is throwing an open question and debate here. Nothing wrong with that. If any some followers will give positive feedback while others will make mockery out of it.

      Even the best chef/cook sometimes tries new recipe to charter new territory, sometimes it works and sometimes not. But the point is, kalau hari-hari makan apam balik pun jemu juga, sekali sekala elok juga tukar menu.

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    3. Syed Alsagof,

      Without free discussions permitted on any subject because of this or that reason, how would anybody decide what is suitable or unsuitable?

      Shall we all just sit here quietly and obey the orders and edicts of self-proclaimed experts or self-acclaimed authorities?

      Even if the experts and authorities are legitimate, does it mean the average man in the street is not allowed to freely debate and question theim?

      Gladiator

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  13. Annie ni memang pandai reka cerita auta. So, apa pandangan Annie tentang ke naikkan tol tahun depan oleh UMNO. ? Setuju atau tidak ?

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    1. Re. ke naikkan tol tahun depan oleh UMNO. ?

      Sangat setuju. Sebab semua kena bayar tak kira bayar tak kira bangsa. Yang bestnya benefit akan dapat pada orang Melayu. Itu untungnya jadi orang UMNO/MELAYU, you lose some you gain more and more....

      P.S.

      Kita orang masih tunggu IGUANA ENG Hapuskan TOL Sungai Nyior yang dijanji sejak 2008.

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    2. hahahahaha...comment lawak dari geng UMNO, best-nya anon 15:19 !!

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    3. Anon 15:56

      It is time to put CINA DAP to the right place. Tahun depan TNB akan naikkan tarif elektrik. The same thing will happen. Semua business-business will be greatly affected as there is no way that they can cut down on usage. Some may increase prices but it will affect their business in the long run as competition among them is very stiff.

      As for the MALAYS, it is about time to teach them how to BERJIMAT CERMAT but the benefits will go back to them in various ways. As it is now TNB has announced 5 or 6 months bonus to their staff (read - majority are Malays).

      How do you like them apple?

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    4. anon 17:52, you are unbelievable stupid, happy sungguh when TNB naikkan tarif elekrik !!

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    5. I think all malay service providers with substantial chinese customer should raise their tariff at least 30% as soon as possible.

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    6. Anon 20:11

      Only Stupidest person will care to response to another stupid person comment... ROTFL

      Voila! guess who that one must be?


      KUALA LUMPUR: Kenaikan tarif elektrik yang berkuat kuasa esok adalah untuk membolehkan Tenaga Nasional Bhd (TNB) menampung kenaikan harga bahan bakar global, terutama harga arang batu yang melonjakkan kos operasi syarikat itu.

      http://www.bharian.com.my/articles/Naiktariftampungkosoperasi/Article/

      Opps! it is sonner than I thought....

      Lain kali "LULUK" ini MALAYSIA, musti baca itu Melayu mar...



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  14. To Annie,

    A simple good advise to your friend is to look at her Malay couple. Where is he from and what is his job. If he is of decent background having decent job, then by all means. I know many Chinese who married Malay of decent background and having good marriage life.

    Most of the problem with Chinese and Malay marriage is that the Malay comes from a very corrupt background. For instance, many Chinese met the Malay in night clubs, or in bar because many Malay works as bar tender or waiter in bar. There are also cases where the Chinese GRO attracted to a Malay who frequent the club. Most of the later problem in marriage comes from these group of people.

    As for marrying 4, if she marry a Chinese, what stop them from having affairs with another women? So whether it is Malay of Chinese, if they are womanizer, they will get another. The only difference is one is through legal means an another is illegal.

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  15. You mentioned Hannah, Teresa and etc but you have forgotten about Joseph Lim Guan Eng!

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  16. masa mula2 smua best lah.. wait till the Melei mamat is over his enchantment --- which is usually fast. They are exceptionally charming during mengorat phase. They can do it 4 or more times without an inch of regret yeah. Loyalty /fidelity is beyond them. Dont be fooled by the initial impressions .Aiaayya... run and never look back. Dont take him so seriously . Keep him as a friend. Dont make babies with him or u will be so sorry.

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    1. The Melei Mamat will ditch her once he realizes how busuk her cibai is. Orang CINA kan tak cebuk!

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    2. Re, The Melei Mamat

      Meleis:

      1. Sub-genre pigs Malay / illegal / palat / pukimak / tungkik / smell Speng / izumen / sham pong and laimang

      2. Malay who easily get butt-hurt with some trolls/jokes

      3. Took from English word "Malaise"

      4. Mat Rempit, Malay Minah dump baby, Malay child rapists, Malay lottery gamblings, Malay parents who smoke infront their baby, Malay making noise in the cinema, Malays wear tudung but do 3GP, Snatch thief Malay

      5. Malay people who speaks in Malay only and they will send hate comments to Malay people who trying to speaks in English.

      Careful ya with your choice of word? I have a string of derogatory terms to match that to reflect the Pariah community...

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  17. Religious malay men are no longer having another wife in the kampungs in Msia. They sudah buka cabang in Indonesia/Patani -Thailand. Can this be considered dead beat dads - they go make babies then they only go visit once a month or so. giving cheapskate nafkahs this too if and when they give. I think this is damaging to society- fathers who are not present, lives in another country and comes n go as he pleases.

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    1. Betoi ke ni? Jangan buat fitnah tanpa bukti n yata!

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    2. blog Annie, blog fitnah. Sesiapa yg suka buat fitnah sila datang ke blog Annie. Kaki fitnah nombor satu adalah Annie.

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    3. Re. Religious malay men are no longer having another wife in the kampungs in Msia. They sudah buka cabang in Indonesia/Patani -Thailand.

      It is very true. It is quite common actually. Don't be surprise The Chinese are doing it to... With AirAsia Now Everyone Can Fly

      Re. I think this is damaging to society- fathers who are not present, lives in another country and comes n go as he pleases.

      That's what I said earlier in this entry

      "When it comes to sex, man regardless of any religion will think with "other head first". They never think about the responsibilities that come with it."

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    4. Re. blog Annie, blog fitnah. Sesiapa yg suka buat fitnah sila datang ke blog Annie

      Kau pun suka datang sini, jadi kau pun sama la Kaki Fitnah... ROTFL

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    5. But if you are shakti-powered like anwar al-juburi you don't even have to be absent from "family" to think with your "other head first" can forget your integrity towards National Parliament and to the People

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    6. sementara ko di saman giler babi semua di kata fitnah- jantan2 tak guna ko tengah mengasah kontol di seberang ... melayu bodoh hhahaha.

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    7. Anon 17:02

      Jantan-jantan Cinabeng pulak sibuk asah kontol kat Selangor dengan ayam China Mali... di rumah rumah urut yang tumbuh macam cendawan...

      Cina Bangang dan hipokrit...ROTFL

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  18. KUALA LUMPUR: Permata Programme patron Datin Seri Rosmah Mansor was today honoured with the 'Global Inspirational Leadership' award at the Africa-Middle East-Asia Amazons Awards Gala in Dubai, United Arab Emirates.

    The event organiser, Centre for Economic and Leadership Leadership (CELD), said the award was in recognition of the high commitment, role and initiatives of the Malaysian prime minister's wife that had given an impact on women and children's development.

    "Women and children are important assets in shaping and determining the future direction of the community and country.

    "Therefore, efforts should continue to be implemented as best as possible in empowering women and children in order to maximise their potential,"


    Tahniah Kak Ros. Betty Chew Gek Cheng dapat award apa? Best botak woman in town?

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    1. kak Ros, ramai murid-murid Melayu dari keluarga yg miskin pergi ke sekolah setiap hari dengan perut kosong, mana dia susu 1 Malaysia dan mana croissants yang dijanjikan baru2 ini ?
      Adakah lembu-lembu semua telah dimasukkan ke condo dan tak dapat hasil susu lagi ?

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    2. Re. kak Ros, ramai murid-murid Melayu dari keluarga yg miskin pergi ke sekolah setiap hari dengan perut kosong,

      Sila buat laporan dan kemukan bukti jangan fitnah saja...

      Re. Adakah lembu-lembu semua telah dimasukkan ke condo dan tak dapat hasil susu lagi ?

      Tidak, sekarang ini proses Lembu TENUSU telah dipelopori oleh kaum Cina, dengan mengimpot LEMBU-LEMBU dari Cina... Tapi sayangnya semua susu sudah dihisap kasi habis oleh customers...

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  19. Mengikut bancian tahun 2002, jumlah sebenar masyarakat Cina yang beragama Islam adalah sebanyak 67,200. Adalah dianggarkan jumlah sekarang melebihi 100,000 orang.

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  20. Annie, you today too much love drama lah.
    Jijik.

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  21. "She only opened her mouth after I had finished all that I could think of to discourage her from getting into such a complicated life-long life arrangement.
    "But he is so smart and funny and I love him so much," was her only and rather quiet response.... that one, I cannot help lah, I said quietly in my heart."

    Looking back as lovers go walking past...All of my life
    Wondering how they met and what makes it last
    If I found the place, would I recognize the face

    It might be you . . . . .... a fool am I for love

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILbe2DAs39M

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  22. Is he one of the Nassa family member??? Amoi will sure fall in love tumble head over heels, lintang pukang kasi kangkang lor. Try tagging a matsaleh surname and mati2 say u got mat saleh blood although face says pure bakuteh and shape....someone said amoi got shape.???....Aiyooyoooo,...lu buta kah or desperado tarak kenal ppuan...REAL women??.... Buntut lepeh, tetek seciput , atas bawah itam lebam juga-itu manyak *curvacious* kah...... KKKKKKKKKKKKKK

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  23. One should marry for love, not for religion, however, not everyone will think the same way, so let it be.

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