Wednesday, 19 February 2014

Maneuvering for big money on the political front

Frontrunners for the 2000 MW coal fired power plant Project 3B, 1MDB and YTL are now almost on the final lap of the race to secure the 11 billion ringgit project.


Both were desperate to win.

But YTL in particular, is throwing caution to the wind by resorting to all kind of tricks known in order to win.

One of the most glaring was that, it had roped in the help of the supposedly reputable The Edge to campaign for its bid and at the same time rubbishing that of its rivals.

This is a typical The Edge's reporting of the tussle for the project which clearly favors YTL,

YTL Power front runner for coal plant


The Edge's report even made it a point to remind readers, in particular those in the decision making position, to bear in mind of YTL's connections with the royalties as mentioned in this paragraph of the report:

"Recall that YTL Power had proposed for the project to be built in Tanjung Tohor, Johor together with SIPP Power Sdn Bhd, of which the Sultan of Johor is a major shareholder."

You will find other similar articles of the same vein on the project if you care to search for them at The Edge's website.

If you read through all those reports it will become clear that The Edge's sources on the tussle for the power plant project came mostly from YTL as the stories were written in such a manner that it favors that company over its rivals bidders.

This is an example of The Edge's report on 1MDB's bid for the power plant.

Highlight: 1MDB faces hiccups in power assets listing 


Note that in the second paragraph, the report quoted "various industry sources" to highlight the problems faced by 1MDB's proposal for the power plant.

As far as I am concerned that part where The Edge claimed that it got more than one source for the story is a load of bullshit. I am quite confident that there was only one real source for that report. No prize for guessing from where The Edge got all those supposedly dirts about the bids by YTL's rival.

It's my opinion that The Edge which of late had published several political articles not favorable of the establishment has clearly took side and that it will benefit immensely in one way or another once YTL secures the multi-billion ringgit deal.

And if you bother to check the background of those leading The Edge's editorial team, you wouldn't be too surprised as to why it had taken such a stance.

Anyway, the side taken by The Edge has become even more apparent when DAP's Tony Pua also throws his support behind YTL's bid for the project in his blog.

But why does the Pakatan side suddenly so supportive of YTL?

Read this posting by The Benchmark to get a better understanding of the issue,

People's Hero or Corporate Champion? 

The blogger is also asking the same question regarding Pua's motives.

My guess answer was that : some organizations such as YTL and The Edge which were involved in this power plant issue had already placed their bets on the outcome of the next general election.

That's why they are getting the cheers from the likes of Tony Pua.

I bet that many other organizations are also placing similar bets, and they include a major media organization, supposedly supportive of the establishment, but in actual fact is supporting the other side....just in case.

Well, I rather save that for later.

87 comments:

  1. from Lao-Tzu to all the parties involved:

    There is no Calamity greater than Lavish Desires.
    There is no greater Guilt than Discontentment.
    And there is no greater Disaster than Greed.

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    1. The religious experience of RIDA or CONTENTMENT amidst life's challenges ... in true patience, hope & forbearance:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LVfQug9aN0

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    2. My opinion is that The Edge is always bias but they're careful to masquerade that bias-ness as impartial, intelligent reporting. If you read between the lines in many of their articles, there are poisons being strategically laced in a thinly sugar-coated sentences. The Edge is like a more sophisticated version of MalaysiaKini. We know for whom they've been writing.........

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    3. Check BFM in their morning run too, as bad as. BIGOT FULL MORNING!

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  2. When the latest range of LV handbags were presented to a certain lady of immense influence to choose as gift (and the ones not chosen we disposed off so that no one here can own one) you kn ow who are the front runner to this tender.

    Trust the chinamen to continually use the natives as fronts to get what they want.

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    1. if you read Tun Mahathir autobigraphy 'A doctor in the house' he mentions this practice in his book.The Chinese controlled companies have been hedging their bets even during Tun's era.Just in case there is a change of government after the General Elections

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  3. Siapa yang bagi peluang kepada YTL mendapat kontrak IPP selama 21 tahun benilai berbilion, walaupun harganya tinngi?
    Siapa yang bagi projek SchoolNet kepada YTL bernilai berbilion walaupun tawaran saing lebih murah.
    Siapa yang selalu merlibur di Resort Pangkor Laut kepunyaan YTL dimana bilik termurah hampir mencecah RM1000?

    YTL hanyalah kontraktor kecilan sebelum di"angkat" oleh seseorang. Sekarang sudah mahu makan tuan?

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    1. That is wrong! They work hard, professional, fair in competition etc.etc. They've got everything they have today because of their hardwork and definitely not because of political connections to Malay powerholders or for being what Lim Guan Eng said as "second class citizens". You're totally wrong.

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    2. Lim Kit Siang ?

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    3. YTL professional and work hard? hehehe, you must be working for them.

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    4. My foot they are hard working. They don't even own a changkul when they step into this country. They corrupt the British Administration and now they corrupt the politicians, civil servant and have the easy going citizens to become their tools of corruption. 

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    5. Anon 12:45

      YTL, just like Ananda Krishnan flourished during Tun M time. Working hard, yes they do, there is no denying about it, but without political connection and alliance, they can't never be where they are now. It is the government contracts that make them rich.

      Why the needs to drop the royalty connection in the write-up then, if connection, network and alliance is not important?

      Another good example is Lim Kok Wing who got his big break with the Government/BN Rakan Muda Project in the past. There are many other stories that I can share here, but suffice to say, the Chinese in Malaysia is greedy, conniving and ungrateful business lot. Once they made it, they take it all and move their bounty abroad.

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    6. Tu Wei-ming, Professor of Chinese History and Philosophy at Harvard University, identifies 3 characteristics of the "human-rootedness" of Confucian thought, ie. learning how to be truly human

      "CHENG" (juhng) designates the state of absolute quiet and inactivity, being sincere, authentic, real. One can be genuinely human without engaging in a flurry of activities.

      SHEN (shen) signifies spirituality. Crucial concerns of Shen are the "heavenly aspect of the soul" and its development.

      CHI (jee). Based upon the cumulative effect of self-transformation, Chi, is an "originating power, an inward spring of activity...a critical point at which one's direction toward good or evil is set" can be identified and used to further 'flourish the soul.' (Tu Wei-ming)

      COMMUNITY. The community is necessary for this self-transformation to occur. It serves to broaden and deepen the self, expressing the fundamental integration of all the facets of our world. Once rooted, the soul contributes to the four visions that identify the classic Confucian vision of the world. The four visions are:


      1. the ability to respond to the world in a poetic sense, or aesthetic appreciation.
      2. the social dimension of ritual activity as means for verbal and non-verbal communication within the "human community"
      3. the historical understanding that can relate to the collective memory
      4. the political actions which are responsive and responsible to the whole community.

      DAP by virtue of its neo-Marxist manifesto and Maoist affiliations ala Chin Peng idolatry is thus inherently anti-Confucius in spirit and character. For those Chinese who seek political mileage and economic fantasies through DAP here in Malaysia, they are actually doing so in willful ignorance of their best spiritual interests and prospects for long-term cultural survival.

      The Loan Shark as Epitome of Chinese Criminal Culture
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4TDmLa8dj4

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    7. Despite whatever DAP says in its manifesto and whatever claims it may have made of its "democractic socialism", the party today is nothing more than another bourgeois party championing the vested interests of a section of the Malaysian capitalist class against other capitalist sections' respective vested interests through politics.

      Crime, such as gangs and loan sharks, is illegal capitalist practices as opposed to legal capitalist practices and criminals are illegal capitalists as opposed to legal capitalist activities.

      Loan shark activity is the anti-thesis of the tenets of Confucianism, Taoism, Marxism or any other religion, spirituality or ethical philosophy.

      "The government is the executive committee of the ruling class." - Karl Marx

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    8. Typical Chinese mentality. Only Chinese work hard meh?

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  4. This has made me curious that DAP has some interest in one way or the other with many other chinese business tycoon for financial mileage and support.

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    1. With their affirmation to bring PAP's "equitable" economic model to preside over Malaysia, DAP is in fact pandering to the global capitalist ambitions despite its haughty socialist slogans to care for the middle-income and the less fortunate in society.

      An Examination of Singapore's Tax System: Favoring the Rich at the Expense of the Poor

      http://thehearttruths.com/2014/02/18/singapores-tax-system-robbing-the-poor-to-feed-the-rich/

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  5. Racist DAP is all about Power, then MONEY and more MONEY.
    That's what Evangelist do, all over the world.

    In the past DAP’s politicians are somewhat honest when they refused to put on the songkok in Dewan Rakyat or at the Rulers’ ceremonial function. Now after most of them are Evangelist, on their own accord they donned the songkok and baju-kurung to dupe the Malay electorate, just like Lee Kuan Yew once did, to win election. Anyway, that’s the only baju-kurung they have, since we saw them wearing that same dress, every time. These Evangelist sure have something up their sleeves.

    If you are a Bumiputera Christian, in East Malaysia (Sabah & Sarawak), please be aware of what Archbishop once said:-

    "When the missionaries came to Africa, they had the Bible and we had the land. They said; 'Lets us pray'. We closed our eyes. When we opened them, we had the Bible, they had the land".

    DAP said they are transparent in doing business. No direct nego, CAT and all that bullshit. Now lets see what this blogger said about DAP's doing business in Selangor.

    http://hardtalkmalaysia.blogspot.com/2014/02/teresa-kok-heroic-villain.html

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  6. Annie,

    YTL is a BN crony - simple as that.

    I suspect that Tony Pua is just as surprised as I am that YTL has not gone in with a higher bid and winning!!

    As a representative of the rakyat, he is entitled to ask for an official reason as to why a lower bid was not accepted.

    In fact, I, myself, was scratching my head - a well-known BN crony with a lower bid price LOSING?? WTF!!

    Thanks for the Benchmark link because it gives some technical reasons against the YTL bid.

    I have a feeling that the contract will contain clauses which allows any winner, in this case, YTL, to increase prices for whatever reasons and it's likely YTL was counting on exploiting those clauses.

    Based on past experiences, it doesn't matter which company wins a contract - it will always be the ordinary Malaysian who will loses.

    I expect it to be no different in this case.

    Gladiator

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    1. Dear Gladiator,

      In Business just like in Politics, there are no permanent friendship/alliances. For their survival, the businessmen and businesswomen will not put all their eggs into 1 basket. They would fund both side of the political divide.

      To give you an idea, what we read and see is smoke and mirror.

      This was personally told to me by a son of a prominent politician within UMNO. He said that it was funny reading about all these spate between his dad and Lim Kit Siang. Uncle Lim always come over to their house for Hari Raya. So in the newspaper, they appeared to be 'enemies'. Belakang takbir...God knows.

      As a rakyat, I think it is best we do not side any political divide. Make them fight for our affection instead. The more we fight for a political party, the more mengada they get. Look at how UMNO treats the Malay like shit. And look at how DAP treats everybody that disagree with them like shit. Power gets to your head.

      M.E.I

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  7. It's OK when the Chinese did , no matter how , no matter what , just imagine how much money they put up to come up with the articles and how much more would be spend to get the contract secured 'if they did ' that's was never classified as "rasuah" , that's ways and means to get thing done ,how smart Chinese are .

    Should Malaysia will be "RASUAH" free ,no way that can happened , but what funny about Malaysia is that only Malay takers are wrong .

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    1. Very true, for malay, being muslim, corruption is haram. It is self regulation. For kafir, corruption is only illegal or haram if you get caught by the law enforcer. So corruption, for chinese kafirs is ok.

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    2. I have said it many time before, to them it is entertainment expenses/allowances but to us, the Muslims, it is Rasuah and Haram. Still the lure of money and fortunate has trapped many Malay Muslims into that.

      Don't be surprise many Chinese Bankers, Marketing and Sales people also steal from their company, by getting under table commission from the supplier and businesses alike. They will normally act in cohort with the respective company employee or even bosses by either receiving commission as percentage of the contract/purchase/loan values or split them with respective employees. And guess who are paying for this extra cost? It will normally will be passed back to the consumers.

      They are very smart and conniving, for small amount of commission, they will normally receive cash payment or through third party. For bigger amount, they will normally open a foreign account in Singapore, Australia or New Zealand, so that the transaction won't be traced here in Malaysia.

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    3. If tebing tinggi got proof to say that YTL giving rasuah, just go make a report to MACC, simple as that ! Jangan cakap dan syiok sendiri saje.

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    4. Anon 12:35: Very true, for malay, being muslim, corruption is haram. It is self regulation.

      Another dumbass who doesn’t follow the news. Go jump into the sewage pond near your home. You will think better next time.

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    5. Anon 13:20

      Re. Another dumbass who doesn’t follow the news.

      Which news are you referring to? Annie's present entry or Tebing Tinggi's comment? Based on sequential order. Anon-12:35 is right wrt his POV and in respond to Tebing Tinngi's comment.

      May I suggest you check your Dump Dalit Ass before you comment next time.

      Re. Go jump into the sewage pond near your home. You will think better next time.

      What with this penchant of your yours with sewage pond btw. Have you jumped into one before to know such effect for sure? For judging by your comment, I don't see any constructive or value added info. where we can learn something new from.

      Oh! wait, it is an insult right? Didn't I ask you to take a good look at your face in a big mirror and then flush it in the toilet (make it a squat-toilet this time) so that you can make do without "FAIR and LOVELY" Cream and your face becomes fairer, in the other entry?

      Sigh!!!!!

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    6. What news? Sorry, dont read Harian etro or Kosmo, neither do watch RTM, Bernama or TV3. Only heard the good news that Erra Fazira is available again.

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    7. LOL: For judging by your comment, I don't see any constructive or value added info. where we can learn something new from.

      For judging by your racist comments, I don't see any constructive or value added info. We definitely not going to learn something good from a racist dumpass like you.

      LOL: Didn't I ask you to take a good look at your face in a big mirror and then flush it in the toilet......?

      You really have to take a good look at your face in a big mirror because you say bad about others without realizing yourself is a useless retarded racist who added no value to the society. Go knock your head on the wall, may be you will think better.

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    8. Anon 14.08, how did you learn that Error Fazira is available again? From Malaysian Insider? Careful, MI is prone to the guerrilla tactics of 'retract and apologise' to simply 'shock and shit'. I don't want to shower on your parade, but that's MI for you.

      Yeah, Kosmo is shit but Malaysian Insider is a bigger shit in its own class.

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    9. The biggest shit in town is non other than LOL ! hehehehehehe

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    10. Anon 17:35 @ Dalit Dude

      Re. For judging by your racist comments, I don't see any constructive or value added info.

      First thing first, which of my comments that your are referring to.?

      As per "LOL19 February 2014 13:09" it was based on my personal experiences and seeing them doing it. In some instances, they stupidly told me, themselves. There are a lot of private info that I have but this is not place for me to share, but suffice to say several of them have paid the price for their conniving behavior before.

      As per " LOL19 February 2014 14:02" it is in retaliation to your Dumb Dalit Ass comment to Anon 12:35 which of no basis at all. Whilst, you have the gall to call him/her a Dumb Ass.

      So what do you have to say about yourself now? Not really smart right?

      Re. Yourself is a useless retarded racist who added no value to the society.

      You think so? Fyi, UMNO/BN and many of the Malays around me don't think so, for all of us work in communal basis to support each other on continuous basis. Something that is obviously lacking in your Dalit Community.

      Re. Go knock your head on the wall, may be you will think better

      Which Scientific Study taught you that by knocking one head against the wall can make one thinks better? Can you prove it to me? Again if you have done it yourself, still I don't see any constructive and vale-added comment coming from you.

      You are utterly stupid and a retard as well. Have you been taking too much of daily dose of cow urine supplement?

      Sigh!!!!!

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    11. Anon 17:51

      It is official that Erra Fazira is divorced and it is also true that Malaysian Insider is a bigger shit in its own class.

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    12. Really Era is divorced. It will trigger many gatal old men dingling.

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    13. still.... LOL is not the bigger but the BIGGEST shit in town !
      Congrates LOL !!

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    14. LOL,

      It’s right that Anon 17:35 says judging by all your racist comments, we don't see any constructive or value added info. You can twist your stories again and again and think that you are right but in fact the majority of Malaysians are not racists. Do you know that BN lost the popular vote in the last election which means your supporters are leaving you because of your backward thinking.

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    15. Anon 20:45,

      You are correct that BN lost popular votes in GE 13 but UMNO (READ MELAYU) garnered the highest votes and seats in GE 13. UMNO (Melayu) does not need non- Malay (read Chinese) votes to win election. After the Chinese tsunami of GE 13, the biadapness of the chinkies and the Allah issue, more Malays are suppirting UMNO as it is the only relevant party for us.

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    16. Anon 19:51 @ Rebeanie/Dalit Dude/Devadasi Descendent ?Comfort Women Descendent,

      First thing first, It is a known fact that I am an Ultra Racist Malay and proud of it.

      Re. LOL is not the bigger but the BIGGEST shit in town !

      But you adore and worship my SHIT as always right? That is why you keep coming back for more. Your Coprophilia Tendency is no longer mild but getting severe and chronic apparently.

      ROTFL

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    17. LOL: You are utterly stupid and a retard as well.
      As well? No, it’s just you.

      Besides this, there is nothing new from you except yapping the same old phrases like “your Dalit Community, Can you prove it to me?

      One Anon said you are an inbred. How can a dumb inbred like you can understand what people say? You better go check with your pa pa and ma ma to see if you are really an inbred.

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    18. Anon 20:45

      Haven't I made it clear that I am an Ultra Malay Racist before and proud of it. You may cringe reading this but that is a fact that you have to deal with.

      Re. we don't see any constructive or value added info

      Of course you don't see the value, for you won't admit the truth and the truth hurts. For example, now you have learned some new lessons e.g. Devadasi - Prostitution of God; or the Dalit community that was brought here by the British. The British didn't bring in the Brahmin here in this country right?; or the story about comfort women and their descendent.

      How could the info given be racist, when they are all historical facts and you can google them yourself, if you don't believe me.

      Re. Do you know that BN lost the popular vote in the last election

      No that is not true. You can verify this yourself, for I am too lazy to google it and post it here.

      1. Hannah Yeoh in Subang Jaya, Theresa Kok in Seputeh, and Ong kian Ming in Serdang won by a landslide, and the three of them contribute the most to the popular vote counts;

      2. The number of Malays registered voters are lower the the Chinese, despite them being the majority. In this case, in the last PRU13 their votes have not been accounted for. I believe the trend will change in the next PRU14, where more and more Malays will become registered voters;

      3. UMNO (Melayu) does not need the Chinese votes to win PRU13. That is why Dapster have been working 24-7 now to woo the Malays into their pig sty;

      4. UMNO has improved its Malays seat by 12 seats in the last PRU13 as compared to PRU12.

      Re. your supporters are leaving you because of your backward thinking

      Can you explain what do you mean by backward thinking?

      I don't find being ETHNOCENTRIC after PRU13 is wrong, especially after seeing the Chinese behaviour in Gelang Patah contest. As explained by Tun M, the Gelang Patah result is the beginning of the end of the kongsi spirit between the Malays and Chinese.

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    19. The best of LOL....kah kah kah !!

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    20. LOL aka the budding ayatollah,

      "...I have said it many time before, to them it is entertainment expenses/allowances but to us, the Muslims, it is Rasuah and Haram. Still the lure of money and fortunate has trapped many Malay Muslims into that...."

      You know that racism is haram and yet you continue to practise it, so what is wrong with other Muslims who want to do things which are haram?

      Gladiator

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    21. Besides LOL, I'm very proud to announce that I am an ULTRA-MALAY and a racist who despise the DAPig Chinese and their cronies. Many Malays feel the same way as I do.

      Dreaming of Putrajaya? Come and wipe my ass!

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    22. Anon 04:22,

      You lost the popular vote shows that they are also many Malays don’t feel the same way as you do.

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    23. Gladiator, can you tell which one is whipping whose ass pairing these Anons 04:22, and 08:56??? Who could be the first one to start? 

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    24. Gladiator @ Dalit Dude/Descendent of Devadasi

      You still haven't answer my question:

      Never mind about my hating you and your people. That is given and done so you just have to deal with it.. But can I ask you why:

      1. The Brahmin in India considers your forefather the Pariah/Dalit as less than human and even now? I may be Racist, but at this point I am only verbally racist, but the Brahmin in India are verbally and physically racist to your kind as per below news:

      India's "Untouchables" Face Violence, Discrimination
      Hillary Mayell
      for National Geographic News
      June 2, 2003

      More than 160 million people in India are considered "Untouchable"—people tainted by their birth into a caste system that deems them impure, less than human.

      Human rights abuses against these people, known as Dalits, are legion. A random sampling of headlines in mainstream Indian newspapers tells their story: "Dalit boy beaten to death for plucking flowers"; "Dalit tortured by cops for three days"; "Dalit 'witch' paraded naked in Bihar"; "Dalit killed in lock-up at Kurnool"; "7 Dalits burnt alive in caste clash"; "5 Dalits lynched in Haryana"; "Dalit woman gang-raped, paraded naked"; "Police egged on mob to lynch Dalits".

      http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/06/0602_030602_untouchables.html

      Note: Are you and your kind going to be treated differently if you go back to India for a visit? Will they know or notice of your origin and existence?

      2. Why the Ceylonese hunted the Tamil to death in 2009?

      https://www.google.com/search?q=tamil+massacre+2009&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=qxoCU_GWDqe3iQePuIDoCQ&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAg&biw=1025&bih=449

      3. Why is the recent Singapore Riot is still race bias against the Indian?

      Note: The PRC Chinese are ruthless in Singapore but they don't get the same racist treatment like the Indian.

      Can you enlighten us all on this?

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    25. Glady @ Dalit Dude/ Devadasi Descendent

      An Encore from the other entry:

      Ayatollah is the term used for Shiite Muslim supreme religious leader, I am a Sunni Muslim. Sunni Muslim views the Shiite Muslims as Deviant Islamic teaching due to various contradiction in their teaching. For one, just like the Hindu who believe that cow dung and urine are sacred and God resides in Cow Urine as mentioned below, the Shiite Muslim also believe the same but in their case, the Shiite Muslims believe, their Religious Leader/Imam's Shit is sacred. You can read both evidences as follows:

      a. Cow dung and urine 'healthy'

      'God resides in cow dung,' says Kesari Gumat, as he walks through his laboratory where researchers mix bovine excreta with medicinal herbs and monitor beakers of simmering cow urine.

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/expat/expatnews/7398029/Cow-dung-and-urine-healthy.html


      b. Upacara makan taik imam dalam SYIAH !!!

      http://rakyattranung.blogspot.com/2013/08/upacara-makan-taik-imam-dalam-syiah.html

      That is why the government is going all out to curb the propagation of Shiite teaching in Malaysia presently.

      You see Glady, if you want to play insult, at least please get your fact right first, otherwise as usual you are making a FOOL of yourself. Please brush up your general and current knowledge of global issue or at least the issue under discussion. For instance, when I say by renouncing your religion and becoming an Atheist, that doesn't magically erase the fact that your a descendent of PARIAH, or in worst case scenario DEVADESI, brought into this country prior to MERDEKA by the Britisth as Indentured Coolie, is a fact that you fail to rebut until now.

      P.S

      I don't mind being a Budding Ayatollah, though I have given the above explanation to rebut, but why do you feel upset about the reality and fact that you are Dalit and Devadasi Descendent? The British didn't bring the Brahmin to this country right. Again, RENOUNCING YOU RELIGION AND BECOMING AND ATHEIST, WON"T MAGICALLY ERASE THE FACT THAT YOU ARE A DALIT AND DEVADASI DESCENDENT. Prove me wrong?

      The Truth Hurts. I know......Sigh!!!!!

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    26. Anon 22:19 @ I Think You Are A Dalit Dude/Babe

      Re. No, it’s just you.

      But majority of your community are Dalit and/or Devadasi Descendent. The British didn't bring the Brahmin as indentured coolie here in Tanah Melayu right?

      Re. Besides this, there is nothing new from you except yapping the same old phrases like “your Dalit Community,?

      This is to remind all of you where you came from over and over again, that can't be erased from history. It seems that some people e.g Gladiator think that by renouncing Hindu and becoming Atheist, it can magically erase that fact. This is not true.

      Re. Can you prove it to me?

      What prove do you what? you and your people being the Dalit/Devadasi descendent or issues wrt to Annie's entries. You can find the later in my comment with other e.g. RD, Annon that pro BN but not Redbeanie, Glady and Dalit Dude. Please check it yourself.

      Re. One Anon said you are an inbred. How can a dumb inbred like you can understand what people say?

      Inbred is defined as existing in a person, animal, or plant from birth; congenital. Just like you and you are community who are inbred as DALIT and/or Devadasi Descendent, I am a Malay by Birth.

      Re. You better go check with your pa pa and ma ma to see if you are really an inbred.

      Have you checked with your pa pa and ma ma whether they are Brahmin?

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    27. Anon 8:56

      What popular vote you are talking about , as far as I am aware the Chinese vote base on racial sentiment base on the community drive on whom to vote they don't have free minds in voting, that why no Malay candidate would win on Chinese majority grounds. Unlike the Malays which are more independent and politically driven ,that why even non Malay candidate from BN would prefer a Malay majority area.

      I don't believe popular vote are in Chinese minds though the candidate could be popular and could give a good service to them , a good example are Gani Othman in Gelang Patah and Ali Rustam in Bukit Katil.

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    28. The fact that the chinese had been voting along racial line or to anyone that gives them a greater worldly benefit had been well established since the first GE. If Pakatan can upped the benefit above what BN had been giving, they have no qualm about switching allegiance.

      The saying that if you meet and Indian an a snake, you killed the Indian first fits applicable to chinese very weel today.

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    29. tebing tinggi,

      I mean popular vote not popular people. Gani Othman lost because of racist remarks made by a small group from umno and many unsolved problems in mca. And you talking about free? You mean they are not free to vote for a malay in PR. You mean they are only free to vote for a malay in BN. Do you know that they voted for BN in the previous elections?

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    30. Anon 14:09

      Re. Ghani Othman lost because of racist remarks made by a small group from umno

      A fair statement by you, but can you elaborate some of the details?

      However, based on tracked record MCA still won Malay majority constituencies and even their existence today is at the MERCY at Malay votes. That despite DAP and Donkey ZONG (read Chinese) and even MCA including those who turn coat like Ong Kian Ming have been playing the racial and religious sentiment prior to PRU13 to the irk of the Malays.

      Re. many unsolved problems in mca

      The late Tan Ah Eng has been serving Gelang Patah seat for few terms, and her record was impeccable. Even on her dying bed, she had reached out to her constituency to support BN. You can google that youtube video and I think Annie had posted it before too.

      The question here, If MCA has internal problem, but the former ADUN has served the constituency accordingly with the support of former Menteri Besar, Tan Sri Ghanie Othman, why then the Chinese in Gelang Patah rather voted for Lim Kit Siang who has no track record at all in Gelang Patah over Ghani Othman?

      Aren't service and track record matter most?

      Re. You mean they are not free to vote for a malay

      It is known fact that right from PRN Serawak that DAP have won all Chinese dominated constituencies with 12 Seats, and the trend was carried through in PRU13. There is nothing wrong with that for it is their prerogative, just like the trend along the Malay dominated constituencies between UMNO and PAS (in Kelantan, Terengganu and Kedah).

      The Gelang Patah seat, is the litmus test where BN/UMNO tried to figure out about the Chinese sentiment, whether they are voting along the candidate/party or racial line.

      A similar fate faced by Datuk Seri Ali Rustam in Bukit Katil. With his track record to develop Melaka to what it is today. The Chinese has again voted against him favoring Shamsul Iskandar. In this contest, the BN/UMNO has seen further validation that the 95% Chinese want UMNO dead. There is no hiding about it.

      Note: If you follow Datuk Ali Rustam FB, you can see some thick-faced Chinese who still throng his house for help, but he never turn them down though he is no longer a CM.

      For the record, except for Kelantan, Terengganu and Kedah, PKR and PAS seats have been won based on Chinese support. Another validation that they want UMNO/BN dead.

      As per Tun M's comment "the End of Kongsi" between the Malay and Chinese.

      DAP has promised the Chinese Putrajaya but they failed without the Malays support, and since then they have been on 24-7 Malay-Muslim-Centric Fake antics gearing up for PRU14.

      Points to ponder. Do you think the Malay Girl who serves as Lim Kit Siang's Political Secretary because LKS believes in her capability? or Why mati-mati pun Zairil Khir Johari mengaku dia tu Melayu?

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    31. Anon 14:09. Ghani lost simply because the chinese in gelang patah want to be represented by a chinese. If MCA retained their allocation, it would be a different matter.

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    32. Dear LOL.

      Saya dah start berkempen supaya orang Melayu pergi daftar untuk mengundi. Siapa depa sokong, itu depa punya pasal. Sya kan tegur anak muda dan orang tua dan ajak sembang. pelahan-lahan saya kan tanya dah mengundi ke belum? Saya suruh anak-anak dan saudara-mara saya turut berkempen.

      Tapi, sudah pasti saya akan kata konsep BN adalah terbaik. Ia itu gabungan antara party politik berteraskan kaum yang Moderates. Bukan seperti Pakatan, dimana Party berteraskan kaum yang racist dan extermist seperti DAP dan PAS. Sekarang mereka guna Gereja untuk meraih undi pulak. Ini adalah bahaya.

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    33. RD,

      Can you call up SPR and organize voter registration rally in areas around you? That will be a better idea. Fyi. the Cinabeng Evangelista has been doing it at the church on regular basis.

      I am not sure who are your YB there, but if he/she is from UMNO, you can set up a table in Pekan or Pasar Malam for the same purpose together with the UMNO/BN community service center.

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  8. I bet you it may have cost YTL assumably 5 millions ringgit paid to the Edge for that constructed write up.

    The project has ascertained for YTL to be already being awarded. The write up is a complimentary to the award. More to that, it is to gain trust of the legitimately new form cooperation between the Sultan of Johor's enterprise and YTL group of companies.

    1MDB can says goodbye to the 2000 MW coal fired power plant Project at Tanjung Tohor, Johor. 

    Having the Sultan of Johore representing Bumiputra as a  strategic partner seems to be the equation. However, Syed Moktar, energy provider actives in Johore and TNB direct involvement are not in the equation.

    The story here is, the few, the richer gets richer by securing one of the pillars of economy, that's energy, on the expense of unaffordable consumers. Capitalism will ride through the government control polices because polices cannot sustain by the inevitable forces of capitalist's greed and profitability for long. 

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  9. As usual, my cousin brother's sister-in-laws office mate's friends' adopted sister's told my nephew. Don't like Malaysian Insider too!

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  10. I think the deal should and would go to 1MDB. They have a listing coming up this year.

    As for Ytl, just wanna say, you are so capable. Can do business elsewhere la where you don't have to use the 'who you know' since you are awarded the contract based on meritocracy and 'what you are capable of'.

    To the Chinese. Don't be so bias la. I am Chinese and ytl treats ppl like shit. They work 5 and half day because the China man who likes to masquerade as western educated, are in fact very kedekut.

    If you are not Christian, don't hope to be promoted to senior mgmt. They only do business with Christians. You check la who are their RM from CIMB. I can bet he or she is a 'staunch' Christian.

    They also like to lick Rosmah' s ass. While you can't stop vilifying our dear PM's wife, they are busy pleasing her. Haha hahaha

    They are rich at our expense la. I thought we are angry at the Government for signing lopsided deals? Their IPP s is what make them so rich. And you know what? They are quietly moving all the assets put of Malaysia and putting them in Singapore.

    By the way, try working with ytl. I say for you Malay contractor you don't ever get the chance to work with this cheh kai company. Collecting money for services and work done by this China man company is a major headache. You ask la contractors that had work with ytl. Payment drag and drag. Until they know you are desperate...They ask you for further discount some more.

    So for all you Chinese put there who wanna call me a turncoat and traitor. Whatever la. You never work with ytl don't talk so much.

    They are stingy. They don't honor their promises unless your are a brother or sister in Christ. So even if your skin is same color, same dialect group. You can go to hell la.

    Wei Han

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    1. Wei Han you talk so much bullshit and Ytl also got so much bullshit, then both of you two can sama-sama go to hell la. You want chinese hell or christian hell ?

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    2. hahaha, kalau tak ada modal nak counter, senyap aje lah

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    3. Why so defensive Anon 20:11?

      What We Han said about the paying the contractors late is true. My dad used to work for a contractor that did work for YTL. Imagine payment can drag for 6 mths. Till it was near CNY. And his boss needed to give staffs bonus. Ended up giving a big discount to YTL just to collect the debt.

      You think Chinese and Chinese so easy to do business? Imagine if your cash flow stuck because of this. I don't think much of them either. Do business the right way. So call yourself Christians but do business like you have no God.

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    4. So call yourself Christians but do business like you have no God?

      "CATHEDRAL" by C.S.N.Y.: Ruminating over the internecine wars between the Protestants and the Catholics

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?
      feature=player_detailpage&v=oA1I11IeF8U

      Six o' clock
      In the morning, I feel pretty good
      So I dropped into the luxury of the Lords
      Fighting dragons and crossing swords
      With the people against the hordes
      Who came to conquer.

      Open up the gates of the church and let me out of here!
      Too many people have lied in the name of Christ
      For anyone to heed the call.
      So many people have died in the name of Christ
      That I can't believe it all.

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    5. It is a universal problem being a small contractor. They are bad paymasters. Because of them the contractors end up going to court which they cannot effort.

      The situation is, the suppliers sue the contractors and possibly they will be beaten by their workers because they cannot pay their services rendered. More than that, the bad paymasters have made them and their workers' families life miserable.

      In such cases, the suppliers (hardwares) bear great lost in this exchanges. They have to manage their lost for a long time if they want to stay in business.

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  11. Hello it is a proxy fight between FLOM and the royals. None of rakyat need is a factor in awards lah!

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  12. LOL + RD + Tebing Tinggi the best of the best, Tabikkkkkkk !
    kah kah kah

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    1. Tiga Ketuk Taik !

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    2. Anon 20:35

      You meant like the Hindu who worship and consume cow dung and urine, or the Chinese who consume urine-socked Egg i.e Spring Eggs.

      Trivia: Long ago the early Chinese immigrant used work as a night walker or in Malay it is know as Pencacai Tahi.

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  13. LOL,


    You can't even say thing properly. What point are you trying to prove by cursing all the time. When you copy paste information from the internet, make sure you copy the relevant ones. If you are right, I will say so but now I can’t see any points from you except a lot of racist remarks.

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    1. Anon 14:41

      Are you saying that Pariah, Dalit, Devadasi and Comfort Women don't exist? Are you saying that I fabricated those term to my whim and fancy? Are you saying that the Indian in Malaysia are descendent of Brahmin? Are you saying that the Chinese in Malaysia are descendent of Puteri Hang Li Po ?

      Prove me wrong then.

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    2. No LOL, you misunderstood already.
      People are saying you act like a piece of dirty shit, with full mouth of muddy shit and blazing dingy shits in Annie's blog.

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    3. The point is that you don't have to insult peoples' ancestry. Can you prove that the Chinese (which clans are you talking about anyway) are descendants of Comfort Women? If of the estimated 200,000 comfort women 10% were Chinese and three quarters of these died and the majority of the remainder were sterile due to disease (according to the comments in Wikipedia) how is this possible?

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    4. Stupid statement from LOL: Note: If you follow Datuk Ali Rustam FB, you can see some thick-faced Chinese who still throng his house for help, but he never turn them down though he is no longer a CM.

      Anon 14:41 is right when he said: You can't even say thing properly. When you copy paste information from the internet, make sure you copy the relevant ones.

      Nonsence after nonsence from inbred LOL. You just end up being totally stupid. Go back to where you belong, the sewage pond.

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    5. Anon 20:34

      People? Which People? Please be very specific. As far I concern only Dalit Dude, Redbeanie, Pariah Atheist and the likes only thing that way. The majority of Pro BN/UMNO supporters support me.

      Re. full mouth of muddy shit and blazing dingy shits

      You mean like the Hindu who consume cow dung and urine as I posted many time before? Who is actually eating SHIT in reality? Not me obviously, I merely reporting fact and I don't fabricate it.

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    6. LOL is a hero of insult people, specifically the Chinese and the Indian. Recently the Italian also kena from LOL, calling the Italian the Indian of Europe !
      LOL madness in insulting & stupidity is beyond comprehension. May Allah have mercy on him.
      "Whom God wishes to destroy he first makes mad."

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    7. Anon 20:49

      Re. The point is that you don't have to insult peoples' ancestry.

      But it is ok for Pariah Atheist @ Glady to insult people who believe in religion as stupid and calling me names but never once make an attempt to apologize?

      This followed by Redbeanie and Dalit Dude who keep degrading me (by using my moniker) and others pro-BN supporters before I even actively participate in Annie's Blog.

      Why the double standard? Aren't you being a HYPOCRITE to start with.

      Re. Comfort Women

      It was a dark history, nobody wants to admit that his/her fore-mother was a comfort women. Anyhow, the probability is always there. Just like the Dalit Community who refuses to acknowledge the dark truth about their past.

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    8. Anon 20:49 @ Dalit Dude

      Re. When you copy paste information from the internet, make sure you copy the relevant ones.

      Which one that you want see? Just tell me then I will post it for you...if you must know below the posting in Datuk Ali Rustam FB, some of the comments stated "are you still helping them?", "muka tak malu" etc. etc.

      Re. Nonsence after nonsence from inbred LOL

      Do you actually understand the meaning of "inbred" before using it as an adjective before my moniker? Don't you think that you are the one who is STUPID.

      Note: it is nonsense not "nonsence".

      Re. Go back to where you belong, the sewage pond.

      Likewise, go and flush your DALIT FACE in the SQUAT TOILET, for that's where it belong. Trust me with a handful of Harpic, for sure will no longer need 'Fair and Lovely Cream" and your face become brighter.

      BTW, can I also ask to go back to where you belong i.e. Shanty Town in India? I have been there and it ain't pretty dude.

      Sigh!!!!

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    9. Anon 20:49 @ Dalit Dude and the likes.

      Can you explain this to me:

      Never mind about my hating you and your people. That is given and done so you just have to deal with it.. But can I ask you why:

      1. The Brahmin in India considers your forefather the Pariah/Dalit as less than human and even now? I may be Racist, but at this point I am only verbally racist, but the Brahmin in India are verbally and physically racist to your kind as per below news:

      India's "Untouchables" Face Violence, Discrimination
      Hillary Mayell
      for National Geographic News
      June 2, 2003

      More than 160 million people in India are considered "Untouchable"—people tainted by their birth into a caste system that deems them impure, less than human.

      Human rights abuses against these people, known as Dalits, are legion. A random sampling of headlines in mainstream Indian newspapers tells their story: "Dalit boy beaten to death for plucking flowers"; "Dalit tortured by cops for three days"; "Dalit 'witch' paraded naked in Bihar"; "Dalit killed in lock-up at Kurnool"; "7 Dalits burnt alive in caste clash"; "5 Dalits lynched in Haryana"; "Dalit woman gang-raped, paraded naked"; "Police egged on mob to lynch Dalits".

      http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/06/0602_030602_untouchables.html

      Note: Are you and your kind going to be treated differently if you go back to India for a visit? Will they know or notice of your origin and existence?

      2. Why the Ceylonese hunted the Tamil to death in 2009?

      https://www.google.com/search?q=tamil+massacre+2009&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=qxoCU_GWDqe3iQePuIDoCQ&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAg&biw=1025&bih=449

      3. Why is the recent Singapore Riot is still race bias against the Indian?

      Note: The PRC Chinese are ruthless in Singapore but they don't get the same racist treatment like the Indian.

      Can you enlighten us all on this?

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    10. Anon 21:56

      Re. LOL is a hero of insult people

      Correction. I am a PRO.

      I don't simply insult but only react when provoke. My BFF once gave me a T-Shirt that says "This Bitch Is Automatic", though it is not totally appropriate for a guy, but that is how she thought of me. Offended by that? Nope at all but rather sweet and endearing....

      You deal with me in civilized manner, I will reciprocate the same. If you insult me and my people i.e Muslim and Malay, I will make sure you feel sorry that you were born.

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    11. LOL,

      I have only said that it's true that only stupid people follow a religion.

      I have only ever called you a fucking idiot for your racist views.

      You want an apology from me for those two statements when you have proven time and time again that I was right in making those statements?

      Really?

      OK, here is my apology.

      I am very very sorry that you are stupid and that you are a fucking idiot..

      Feel better now?

      Gladiator

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    12. Glady @ Dalit Dude/Devadasi Descendent

      Re. Truly, Deeply, Madly Sorry

      Shouldn't you take a look at a Big Mirror at home and reminiscing the fact that you are still a DALIT and/or Devadasi descendent though now you are an Atheist. Honestly speaking, I am TRULY, DEEPLY, MADLY, SORRY that no amount of Fair and Lovely Cream, can erase the DNA from your DALIT FACE.

      Re. Opinion vs Fact

      I may be stupid and a fucking Idiot to you, which is a matter opinion of yours and your Dalit Gang alike btw. but I in return, state my case based on fact and published information that none of you can dispute.

      I Know it is hard to swallow the bitter truth, but hey as they say, Dalit Is, Dalit Does.

      Re. Feel better now?

      ABSOLUTELY FUCKING GREAT to have been able to put you back to your place. Cheers! bottom up for another glass of cow urine at your side. I am having a Sirap Badung here....

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    13. LOL

      RE Anyhow, the probability is always there.

      True. But the point is you are making it a general statement. If you are directing it at a specific person please say so but you should have proof not general conjecture. Anyway, there is nothing wrong with being the descendant of a Comfort Woman. Those women (actually young girls) were prisoners of war who were raped and tortured by the Japanese (and I believe if not for Hiroshima and Nagasaki they would have gone on doing this and other horrendous deeds). The way you interpret things might as well say it is embarrassing to be descendants of Jews and other WW2 victims (but probably in your twisted mentality you look down on them too).

      We don't really know if local Native women folk and Malay girls were raped by the Japanese but it is probably the case too as even East Timor girls were subject to such treatment (please see Wikipedia).

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  14. SelangorKini.
    20 Feb.2014.

    Menteri Besar Selangor, Tan Sri Khalid Ibrahim diberitakan mengadap DYMM Sultan Selangor petang tadi. Rombongan Menteri Besar dilihat memasuki Istana pada jam 5 petang dan keluar 1 jam kemudian. Kami dimaklumkan, MB tidak mahu membuat sebarang kenyataan kerana terpaksa mendapat persetujuan dari rakan sekutu didalam Pakayan Rakyat terlebih dahulu.

    Desas-desus mengatakan tujuan Tan Sri Khalid Ibrahim mengadap Tuanku Sultan adalah untuk membubarkan Dewan Undangan Negeri, namun kesahihan dakwaan ini belum dapat dipastikan. Sebarang perkembangan terkini mengenai kemelut perebutan jawatan MB Selangor, dikalangan pemimpin tertinggi PKR, akan dilaporkan secepat mungkin dari masa-kesemasa.

    RD. melaporkan dari Istana Anak Bukit.

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  15. LOL aka the wannabe mullah(?),

    I thought I'd change the honorific as you seem to not understand joke. Would mullah be ok?

    Why are you trying to avoid clarifying YOUR own statement on a matter of Islamic belief?

    "...I have said it many time before, to them it is entertainment expenses/allowances but to us, the Muslims, it is Rasuah and Haram. Still the lure of money and fortunate has trapped many Malay Muslims into that...."

    You know that racism is haram and yet you continue to practise it, so what is wrong with other Muslims who want to do things which are haram?

    Gladiator

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    1. Glady @ Dalit Dude/Devadasi Descendent

      Re. Mullah

      Mullah is defined as a Muslim learned in Islamic theology and sacred law. First thing first, why I should I be offended by that title, though I am not a learned scholar, but I surely hope so that one day I become one. It is a process and I am still learning. So why is that a joke to you then?

      Unlike you, it is a fact that you are a Dalit and/or Devadasi Descendent, which you obviously tries to erase and the funny thing is, you thought it can be done by renouncing your religion. To me that is the real joke.

      Re. You know that racism is haram and yet you continue to practise it, so what is wrong with other Muslims who want to do things which are haram?

      Everybody has his/her vices, mine is being racist. You just have to deal with that. The same way when I mentioned the lure of money and fortune over bribes, I can only state but I never have I dictated. Learn to differentiate the two..

      You see Glady, I am not a hypocrite, unlike you. You can insult people but demand people to be nice to you and others, in this case not being racist . Even when you apologizes, you made a mockery out of the word apology. Is that what atheism has taught you?

      I have many free thinker, agnostic and atheist friends (even a Murtad Malay), but we don't go around insult each other. We just draw the lines of the do and don't. Maybe because they are Chinese, and they don't have the inferiority complex like the Dalit such as yourself.

      Why does my being racist bother you in the first place. again? It is only verbal, unlike the Brahmin and other upper caste who detest and insult the Dalit (your kind btw) through and through until now. It is a form a racism, but you have mentioned something to the effect that the Caste System is ok, only that the golongan Istana doesn't know how mixed with the low caste people (WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT?).

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    2. Glady@ Dalit Dude/Devadasi Descendent,

      Part 2

      So what's a big deal then. If you can explain this, then maybe I have a different view about the Dalit.

      Never mind about my hating you and your people. That is given and done so you just have to deal with it.. But can I ask you why:

      1. The Brahmin in India considers your forefather the Pariah/Dalit as less than human and even now? I may be Racist, but at this point I am only verbally racist, but the Brahmin in India are verbally and physically racist to your kind as per below news:

      India's "Untouchables" Face Violence, Discrimination
      Hillary Mayell
      for National Geographic News
      June 2, 2003

      More than 160 million people in India are considered "Untouchable"—people tainted by their birth into a caste system that deems them impure, less than human.

      Human rights abuses against these people, known as Dalits, are legion. A random sampling of headlines in mainstream Indian newspapers tells their story: "Dalit boy beaten to death for plucking flowers"; "Dalit tortured by cops for three days"; "Dalit 'witch' paraded naked in Bihar"; "Dalit killed in lock-up at Kurnool"; "7 Dalits burnt alive in caste clash"; "5 Dalits lynched in Haryana"; "Dalit woman gang-raped, paraded naked"; "Police egged on mob to lynch Dalits".

      http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/06/0602_030602_untouchables.html

      Note: Are you and your kind going to be treated differently if you go back to India for a visit? Will they know or notice of your origin and existence?

      2. Why the Ceylonese hunted the Tamil to death in 2009?

      https://www.google.com/search?q=tamil+massacre+2009&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=qxoCU_GWDqe3iQePuIDoCQ&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAg&biw=1025&bih=449

      3. Why is the recent Singapore Riot is still race bias against the Indian?

      Note: The PRC Chinese are ruthless in Singapore but they don't get the same racist treatment like the Indian.

      Can you enlighten us all on this?

      P.S

      I will never get tired to re-post the questions to you over and over again, just to show followers of this blog how evasive you are when the tide is turn. You are truly a PAMPU.

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    3. LOL aka the mad mullah,

      So if racism, which is haram, is a personal vice, it is quite OK to continue doing it as a Muslim because it is a personal vice?

      Gladiator

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  16. LOL: You are a national embarrasement to your own race stuck with either PARIAH or COLLIE COMPLEX.

    Note: It is embarrassment not "embarrasement".
    Don’t embarrass yourself again without realizing your own mistakes.

    LOL: Do you actually understand the meaning of "inbred" before using it as an adjective...?

    When? Proof it. FYI, inbred means either your pa pa and ma ma are brother and sister or father and daughter. Check it out, it's still happening in your village. I know you are embarrassed of what your parents did but your parents are more embarrassed to have a piece of shit as a child.

    LOL: Careful with playing insult with me, for I will make it a point to up notch it a few level up at every turn.

    That’s all you got? Now, you can go jump in your toilet bowl.

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    1. Anon 12:18,

      You are such a piece of shit. Inbreed also means your forefather had fucked one of his pigs and the result is you. Now that you know your true DNAs, go and kill yourself, will you!

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