Government to follow rule of law in Zakir Naik's case: Gobind Singh
Wrong portfolio is it?
Or is it because Gobind is an Indian?
excerpts;
He revealed that Human Resource Minister M. Kulasegaran, Water, Land and Natural Resources Minister Dr Xavier Jayakumar and himself as Indian ministers in the cabinet had spoken about this with the prime minister.
But I thought he's a Sikh.
And that Gerakan man who goaded him into making the statement is also a Sikh, right?
By the way, I thought there are only Malaysians these days...no more Malays, Chinese, Indians etc....I don't know, Guan Eng said he's not Chinese but Malaysian what....
Sigh....
I think there are many confused people in this new Malaysia.
Anyway, the other day Dr Mahathir already made a stand on this issue,
PM doesn’t want govt to
bow to pressure on Zakir Naik issue
Why then Gobind still wanted to make a noise over it?
In fact, why would anyone still want to talk about it in Cabinet once Dr Mahathir has decided on something?
Isn't that the way it was the last time Dr Mahathir was PM?
I think they better learn from Muhyiddin on this.
Once Dr Mahathir says something, the others should just shut up.
I think that would be better.
After all, Dr Mahathir seems okay with this Zakir Naik fellow,
I don't think Dr Mahathir would be nice with the guy if he is indeed a bad person who is going around inciting religious hatred and such.
Come on ya, you all put your trust in Dr Mahathir to lead the country, so put your trust in him on this one too, okay.
Deporting Zakir Naik is part of PH manifesto ?
Really?
Who cares about election promises these days la.
Those were just to get votes only.
Anyway, what exactly had this Zakir Naik done which makes some people, especially Indians being so concerned about deporting him?
Or is it because some people went to debate with him on religions and got angry because they were made like fools in public by Zakir Naik, thus the demand for him to be deported?
Personally, I don't like to debate on religions.
In fact, I don't like to debate about anything at all.
Normally, I just tell my side of the story and that's about it, and I'm okay if you all disagree with me.
I wouldn't want to debate or argue.
That's because I'm not in the business of educating idiots, okay.
But Zakir Naik is in that business and if you engage him, then you'll get an education.
That's if you engage him to get some education la.
However, if you engage Zakir Naik because of your ego, that is to prove your religion is better than his religion, then you'll get burnt because that guy is good at what he is doing.
I think that's why there are people angry with Zakir Naik and wanted him deported. It's not so much because Zakir Naik was inciting religious hatred but because of their bruised ego.
That's all.
By the way, I don't think the government will ever deport Zakir Naik.
It's because a lot of Muslims will get angry if they do that.
Zakir Naik is after all a Tokoh Maal Hijrah.
PH can't afford to lose Muslims' support because they are still the majority in the country.
why zakir naik is NOT seeking refuge in wahhabi saudi arabia (so muslim support for wahhabi saudi arabia will rise)??? BTW why dumbos NEVER asked zakir naik to cakap melayu (PR meh)???
ReplyDeleteAnanda and Tony Fernandes broke Indian laws too but none of the so called liberals, secularists, pluralists, activists demand both to be deported. Hypocrisy of the highest order!..
DeleteThey thought deporting world reknown religious preacher such as Zakir Naik is as simple as deporting a clumsy Sungai Besar fugitive from Indonesia. It is not that simple. Zakir Naik is not a nobody. He’s a highly influential figure.
DeleteZakir Naik is a big name in Muslim world. He has a huge Muslim followers. His ceramah attract hundreds of thousands of Muslims. When they were held before in places across Malaysia, they attracted seas of attendees.
Should Malaysian government decides to deport him, it is not going to go down well with the country’s Muslims. And they know it. There’ll be massive political implication especially among Malay Muslims. There’s going to be a huge backlash.
This ‘Malaysia baharu’ government will look very bad in the eyes of Malay Muslims should it happens. And Umno and Pas will going to town in a big way. PH image will suffer. The Malays will get even more sceptical. Even the previously so called transformist government who abolished ISA didn’t dare to send him back, what makes you think this government will?
With deafening and impatient calls to abolish Jakim and tahfiz school keep coming, with still hot on the heels are the appointment of new non-Muslim AG and non Muslim Chief Justice, this deportation calling will only adds more fuel to fire.
With the deportation of a highly revered Muslim preacher, the transformation of new liberal Malaysia is complete; they might have thought.
This Zakir is like Najib. Whatever they do and said, to their supporter everthing is fine. Now Najib is charged. We will find answer after the trial. About Zakir please do read Mariam Mokhtar and Outsyedthebox. You will find answer to why other people want him deported. Whether he is a popular preacher to muslim or not has nothing to do with money laundering. Indian government want him on money laundering.same thing goes to Najib whether he is Melayu and Islam is irrelevant when he was charged on corruption of 42m went into his personal account. Period.
DeleteZakar Nail is as much a good Muslim as Najib is, actually.
DeleteAnnie seems to love kleptocrats and money launderers.
The skeletons are now coming out of the Islamic preacher Zakir Naik's cupboard. The Enforcement Directorate (ED) not only claims to have established a money trail of approximate Rs 200 crore linked to Zakir Naik and his NGO, the Islamic Research Foundation (IRF), but also a link between Naik and the Wahedna group, which was named in the Panama Papers leaks.
The agency recently issued a third summon to Naik, currently in Saudi Arabia, to remain present before the ED Mumbai office within next two weeks.
"Despite issuing two summons, Zakir Naik intentionally skipped the investigation. Thus, the ED has decided to issue third summon to Naik", a source told India Today. A copy of the summons has been handed to Naik's elder brother Mohammad Naik and also sent to Zakir Naik himself, via an email.
Till now, at least 5-6 persons have been interrogated and their statements have been recorded by the agency in the money laundering case against Naik. It includes Naik's brother, his legal advisor Saukhat Jamati and IRF's accountant. The agency is likely to summon Naik's sister very soon.
NEW DEVELOPMENTS
In a major development, sources confirmed told India Today that the agency has unocovered suspicious transactions of around Rs 200 crore in IRF's bank accounts.
"The money trail has been established in the bank accounts of IRF. Out of Rs 200 crore, around Rs 70 crore has been transacted in the name of Harmony Media (a production company), and the remaining money - Rs 130 crore - has been brought in by Naik himself, which is under serious probe", the source added.
Of course to Annie & the other Umno / Very Neutral bloggers, crime is Islamic.
We should just follow the law.
If India makes a legal request - follow it.
for a person who has no fluency in arabic?????reverted?
Deletewhy cant tommy reverted for his poor bahasa???
Its purely anti Islam , on one hand they call themselves Malaysian and on this case Indians , what a hypocrites .
DeleteSkimo; Have u seen Zakir Naik's videos on youtube. Not once he had incited Muslims to become extremist.He is an expert in interfaith issues especially on Christianity n Hinduism.He memorised by heart the Quran, Bible n some Hindu scriptures.
DeleteIn one of his lecture, he asked for Muslims and Hindu to reconcile and agree on common theme by referring to their old religious book.Surprise to me when he quoted in the old Hindu's book that God is one.
Anything wrong with that and I agree with Annie, it was the ego thing that pressure the Hindu to call for expulsion of Zakir Naik.
I do hope Tun M will not crumble under pressure.The Mufti of Perlis already called for dialogue or debate between Ramasamy n Zakir Naik.I welcome this.
"Or is it because some people went to debate with him on religions and got angry because they were made like fools in public by Zakir Naik, thus the demand for him to be deported?"
ReplyDeletei believe that too
and authority must deport him. he cause a stir by doing that. if he preach to find similarity between religion than it's ok
i thought religion is a sensitive issue.
"Or is it because Gobind is an Indian?.But I thought he's a Sikh."
ReplyDeleteI suppose the Sikhs originste from Europe.
"Or is it because some people went to debate with him on religions and got angry because they were made like fools in public by Zakir Naik, thus the demand for him to be deported?"
Thats the problem. You don't indulge in debates. Especially not in the name of Dakwah.
Debates ..berhujjah..ikhtilaf among Muslims only creates separations, tensions, antagonism and worse of all hatred. What more among different religins.Nabi SAW told us all Muslims to 'Dakwah Bil Hikmah'.
Still I agree with the PMs decision to allow ZN to remain in Malaysia as long as he abide to our laws.
He owns 37 properties in India, but loves and calls Malaysia home
ReplyDeleteFadzireen
maybe he likes it here!!!! not so much "cover-up" like saudi arab!!!!
DeleteAnnie said, That's because I'm not in the business of educating idiots, okay.
ReplyDeleteYou didn't realize you are the real idiot yourself with a confused mind all this time.
Thank god for our new government to exercise freedom of speech nowadays. During Najib's era you might be in the lockup now for fake news.
Religion is about one personal faith and this zakir naik guy is a racist and he spreads hatred among religions. Let the rule of law decides this guy's fate.
I'm certain Tun M tend agree to disagree as long it's not above the rule of law that he has preached in the previous manifesto.
Zakir Naik is a raciast?give evidence la bro
DeleteISLAM IS AGAINST RACISM AND PREJUDICE.
DeleteThere is no compulsion in religion, meaning, "Do not force anyone to become Muslim, for Islam is plain and clear, and its proofs and evidence are plain and clear. Therefore, there is no need to force anyone to embrace Islam. (Al- Baqarah 256)
Islam is against all forms of racism and bigotry, on the basis of both revelation and reason.
Racism is defined as the belief that one ethnicity is superior to another, or one color of skin is superior to another, or the people of one country are superior to another.
It is a type of prejudice, to pre-judge some demographic of people based upon their benign and arbitrary physical characteristics. Such repugnant beliefs are the traits of pre-Islamic ignorance (al-jahiliyyah).
Rather, in Islam, we believe all people are born equal in the sight of Allah and the only characteristic that makes someone superior to another is righteousness (al-taqwa).
Allah has dignified the children of Adam, all human beings in the world, with blessed provisions such as reason, intelligence, and empathy.
We have certainly honored the children of Adam and carried them on the land and sea and provided good things for them, and We favored them over much of what We created, with decisive preference. (Surat al-Isra’ 17:70)
Allah created different races and tribes so that people would recognize each other and learn from each other, not so that the races would fight each other. Ethnic diversity is part of the divine plan, a means of enrichment.
There is similarity between Zakir Naik and Jho Low. Both of them wanted by the authority of their homeland for criminal activities.
DeleteLet the rule of law serve them well coz nobody should be above the law. In the term of Berani buat beranilah tanggung.
If their reaction akin to the fugitive coward samseng Jamal Tongkol then, thats a shame.
Annie. You don't like debate ye. I don't either. But your line of logic is exceptionally humorous here. Despite the racially charged issue. Good.
ReplyDeleteHani Sophea
Aiseh Annie... I thought you are one of those UMNO reformists like Khairy but looks like you are still stuck in the UMNO kolot mindset. Still harping on race and religion. Even Khairy now realises that UMNO will sink further into the abyss by harping on race and religion.
ReplyDeleteYou still don't know Annie is devoid of issues nowadays ?
DeleteIts just a anti Ialsm ....
Delete"Zakir Naik is after all a Tokoh Maal Hijrah". Yup... courtesy of your former beloved PM Najib
ReplyDeleteWhen a klepto government headed by a thief like Najib awarded you Tokoh Maal Hijrah, its such a disgrace to Islam.
DeleteHahahaha! awarded by Ahjibgor by whom the wholesale content of Malaysia's baitul maal went on Hijrah into his own Ambank account.
Deletezakir naik should listen more than he speak OK
ReplyDeleteWhat is it with Annie and this Zakar Naik fella?
ReplyDeletedumbos very malu now, they dare NOT propose toiletman pandikar for speaker post wakakaka
ReplyDeleteAnon 10:59
DeleteHaiyaa.. still cannot padam your "bucket collector" DNA ke? Tuan Besar Omputih dah lama balik negeri la mooo
Repeat after me;
Dumbos dumbos dumbos dumbos
Professor Nasi Lemak
To the commenters above kindly state in what way did Zakir Naik's preaches considered incitement.
ReplyDeleteLike what the blog owner said it's mainly bruised ego as they can't counter Zakir Naik factually and logically.
asni talib,
Deletedalam bolasepak jika pemain menanggalkan baju selepas menjaringkan gol, dia akan dikenakan kad kuning (amaran).
apa masalahnya buka baju sebagai meraikan kejayaan menjaringkan gol? kerana pihak lawan menganggap itu sebagai provokasi (walaupun hanya ego yang tercalar)
jadi supaya tidak terjadi pergaduhan, perkara seperti ini perlu dikawal
zakir naik patut kata " for you is your religion, and for me is my religion "
Okay2 Annie.. jangan kita gaduh2 asyik gossip hal Zakir Naik..
ReplyDeleteSementara itu belek2 la saham CAHYA MATA SARAWAK BERHAD yg sedang meNAIK. Pasaram saham tengah dok meNAIK. kekekeke
Cepat..
EPF ade,
katak2 pun ade..
Professor Nasi Lemak
Professor Celup,
DeleteZakar kamu ade NAIK ke? kekeke
Anon 18:15
DeleteWrong person la mooo..
shld ask yr PM baru kena orgnya.
Professor Nasi Lemak
Profesor Celup, dia bukan PM aku la..aku sokong PAS
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ReplyDeleteIni Zakir Naik siapa eaa aa ?, lia atak buat salah kah ?. Suka kaa tatak sukak kaa itu masing-masing punya celita maa aa ,lamai olang suka ,sikit olang tatak sukak ,apa pasat mau ikut sikit punya olang loo rr,
Kalau tanya Bulayu yang lamai (pasat ini negala Bulayu) ,lia olang sukak Cina tak ,pasti tatak sukak maa aa ,tanya lagi lia olang sukak India kaa ,tentu juga tatak saukak . Jadi apa macam ?, ini Cina & India kena balik negeli lor rr.
Nepal,Indon ,Pilipine ,Bangla ,Pakistan ,Myanmar ,Vietnam semua kena balik maa aa .
they dont like zakir naik is because zakir naik have proof them worshiping false god and that is why they are angry....
ReplyDeleteI dont understand the rabid hatred of Indians on Zaki Naik.I saw a vdeo clip of ZK engaging a Malaysian Indian lecturer who claimed to be an expert in Hinduism but ZK managed deflect all his arguments using verses from Hindu religous texts such as the Vedas and Upanishad.
ReplyDeleteThe tactics of some Malaysian Indians seem to be when you cannot win an argument you must demand that the Law must take action against your opponent instead of finding better arguments against him.Anyway the Indian government has been investigating on ZK for sometimes without charging him in court.If he has 37 properties in India without sufficient income declarations they can charge him in court even if he is not in India.
Dear Annie,
ReplyDeleteWhat do you know about Sikhs and Sikhism?
Just curious given your comments.
Guru Nanak said:
Delete"Even Kings and emperors with heaps of wealth and vast dominion cannot compare with an ant filled with the love of God."
And the guru clarified about the soul:
"I am neither a child, a young man, nor an ancient; nor am I of any caste."
In fact Guru Nanak was a hafiz of the Quran....
DeleteWAHEGURU - Gratitude to the One Lord who takes you from darkness of ignorance to the light of knowledge.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Em-uA-UbRiU
Didnt you know that Guru Nanak had made pilgrimage to Mecca and only Muslims can did that
DeleteI thought the Indian govt wanted Zakir for his alleged money laundering in India, and not because of any religious related issues.
ReplyDeleteSweetheart couldn't agreed with u more on the last few lines. Tun's mindset it's too high for them to read. Tht guy really nid to learn how to behave in tis country. Tun got no penchants for extremism.
ReplyDeletePatriot_7
I always wonder why weren't any religions in the world taught abt science, finance or economics. Guess the rationality, common sense, sensible n reasoning does not get along well with religions.
ReplyDeletePatriot_7
You are wrong.There are alot of science in the Quran including the developement of embryo in the uterus,the big bang theory,the mountains act as pegs to stabilise the earth,the rotation of the earth, uniqueness ofyour finger prints,the relativity of times,etc.You will probably find science related subjects in bible and other religous texts.
DeleteOver the time, those theories was inserted bcuz there wud be a lot of ppls like me tht ask a lot of questions. To keep religions inline with the changings modern world.:)
DeletePatriot_7
Patriot_7
DeleteYour comments before said why there are know science in the holy books and when someone gave you the evidences and you said those were inserted later.The copy of the Quran 100years ago is still the same as the copy written ladt year and the big bang theory was introduced only in 1960s .
Brunei Sultan appoints Steven Chong as Chief Justice (he's a Chinese, RPK will kelentong he's a Christian too) wakakaka
ReplyDeleteAnnie,
ReplyDelete//How come it's the Information Minister who said this?//
I have never got used to Malaysian Cabinet Ministers making comments on matters outside their portfolios.
OK, back when UMNO was in power, this was really really common but then UMNO ministers know everything about anything, so for them, it was biasa lah.
But with Pakatan, I would have thought that their ministers would show more self-discipline and flick-pass the hot potato over to the appropriate minister, in this case, probably the Home Minister or his deputy.
Maybe those newbie Pakatan Ministers have been observing UMNO Ministers and think that it is perfectly normal for ministers to make comments on anything and everything.
//By the way, I thought there are only Malaysians these days...//
Aiyah, like it or not, those noobs are probably still coming to grips with projecting a Malaysian-only image.
Bear in mind, they would likely to be subjected to pressure from their Indian constituents to say something as well.
//Isn't that the way it was the last time Dr Mahathir was PM?//
Well, it is not "last time", it is THIS TIME.
I think Mahatir himself knows that he needs to make some adjustments to his management style.
//I don't think Dr Mahathir would be nice with the guy if he is indeed a bad person who is going around inciting religious hatred and such.//
Heheheheh.. Mahatir was very nice to Anwar before he sacked Anwar the next day :)
If I was Zakir Naik, I would be a bit careful no matter how nice Mahatir was to me :)
//what exactly had this Zakir Naik done which makes some people, especially Indians being so concerned about deporting him?//
I have never bothered to listen to anything Zakir Naik says.
The Wikipedia article on him gives a very unflattering view of the man.
Plus he is banned from several countries.
All this is reason enough to view him with some suspicion and caution.
And anybody who disputes evolution is a moron in my opinion.
Anyway, I find it really really weird that Zakir Naik prefers to stay in Malaysia when Saudi Arabia would seem a much more suitable place for him and his beliefs.
//It's because a lot of Muslims will get angry if they do that.//
My guess is that the bulk of Muslims who will get angry would be from PAS.
There may be some Muslims from UMNO but I do not believe their numbers are necessarily significant.
UMNO Muslims tend to get more excited over contracts, money, power, etc.
Gladiator
Asni Talib @ 13 July 2018 at 11:36,
ReplyDelete//To the commenters above kindly state in what way did Zakir Naik's preaches considered incitement.//
This is a good starting point.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zakir_Naik
Gladiator
Wow...he said other religions are wrong, so how can Muslim countries allow the building of church and temples ! And this is just a tiny bit of example of the stuff coming out of the mouth of this Naik guy. He has 37 properties in India...must be very lucrative to preach such ungodly divisiveness. And there are millions upon millions just adore him..even worship him. They say Armageddon will finally descend on earth once we have the sheeple masses who blindly follow the son of Satan.
DeleteAnonymous @ 13 July 2018 at 16:58,
ReplyDelete//they dont like zakir naik is because zakir naik have proof them worshiping false god and that is why they are angry.//
And there are others who have equally strong proof that Zakir Naik worships a false god :)
Your god might be real to you but others also have gods who are real to them.
And then there are those who treat their gods as a joke, eg, people who worship the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
Me?
I think those who worship the Flying Spaghetti Monster may be on to something.
But I may be biased because I like spagetthi and I make an awesome spaghetti. :)
Gladiator
Annie,
ReplyDeleteI think this is small issuelah.
We want to extradite Jho Low and Sirul also the respective country do not cooperate.
So we have to cooperate for what?
I think the bigger news was about Gobind announce the internet speed upgrade 10x the speed.
This is to ensure we are at par with neighboring Singapore and Thailand.
From 30M to 300M, that is fantastic. So, not like Janji capati last time.
More good things coming soon under Pakatan.
The Parliament going to convene soon, among the manifesto are PM only 2 terms. MACC and AG under Parliament.
These are more important factors that the rakyat looking forward to.
No more 1MDB issues in future.
Annie is devoid of ideas to denigrate PH so must find non issues lah...she also need to cari makan what.
DeleteIt was said Zakir Naik has been given spurs, title and the privilege of PR so by the rule of law he gets to stay.
ReplyDeleteIf that was the reason, the rule of law also applies to a formal extradition request made by another sovereign state, India, in January. If it does not apply, Malaysia will equally have no right to extradite Chow-Lor from wherever he may be. Bad as our international reputation already is, namely tatters, why do we therefore ignore India's formal request in the same way PH has ignored our own Sarawak people's request to charge Pek Mor beyond the political expediency of Warisan?
India's request was on money laundering charges. But one need only youtube and google for Zakir Naik's speeches and writings to know he has been divisive and incendiary on inter-faith goodwill on a motive to make Islam the supreme religion of the world by denigrating other religions through elevation of the Prophet (PBUH) as the last - and by his own logic - the most authoritative representative of the Almighty.
And what is his method? A combination of two techniques. One, play up his apparent knowledge of other religions by quoting here and there so as to win the tokoh credentials for international defender of Islam and the admiration of pro-Muslim political acolytes.
Two, play and pounce on words. In one youtube recording, he as a doctor was losing the argument against the questions of a young medical student; alas the poor student made a mistake and used the word theory when meaning law. Zakir Naik the global illuminary pounced on that word and literally tore the poor student's standing to bits before stomping away from the stage. Such a remarkable display of deflection escapism. One would have thought that if he had really studied and understood the essences of all the faiths he was trying to tar, he would have the humanity to rise above his personal ambitions to see the human condition that requires compassion and goodwill needed for "what's next to heal mankind?", not take it out on a poor student's earnestness in order to save his own face, ego and ambition. In that particular case, he could have said, "oh you mean law of gravity, so let's see what's next from that premise..." = he didn't. Why?
And the answer could be found in his writings against all the other religions, including Zoroastrianism. In the one against Buddhism, it was said he wrote that there is a contradiction, namely if that religion requires one to abandon desires, then the desire to abandon desires is a tautological miscarriage. Why didn't he consider the faith as predicated on laws of natural process instead which would have punctured the specious way in which he serpentinely navigates to his persuasions of less tortured minds?
The end result is bad emotions in society leading to mistrust, arrogance and infighting even thousands of years after.
Which comes to us. Did the cabinet agree to Zakir Naik's stay based on political expediency of not wanting to stoke local Muslimic excesses besides winning the janggut favors of a Sunni Saudi Arabia as custodian of annual quotas for Mecca-visits, over and above the rule of law?
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ReplyDeleteWe should all and now take a step back and lean against our respective walls to answer candidly the only question on our non-pink lips:
whither 3R?
Whatever answer we have must be honest and relevant. The previous government has used it to sustain not the wills and wishes of the peoples but its own camarilla of political oligarchs ending in a highly-indebted economy on which the peoples depend for their daily livelihoods. Those power-mongers have played on the emotion of an unthinking lot made of a small number of firebrand zealots and fanatics seizing the national narrative over a majority, furthermore cowered to deafening silence whenever injustice and bullyism are played outright as if by right.
One is reminded of a group of Malays who falsified DBKL credentials (falsified because they were shown as manila board cards), crashed into a DVD rental shop, pushed the proprietor to the back and demanded payment to walk away. A better circus act there never was. The seizure of sensibility, for that matter the rule of law.
Which is why LGBT is still a question. Even if someone takes exception by edict by its manifestation in societies, who gives anyone the right to make judgement on them? Notwithstanding the ongoing research into its cause devolving from hypothalamic balance differential in testosterone levels in some, who gives the right to any majority to demonize and victimize them socially until they are marginalized economically as human beings. And that is why one can salute the management of Metrojaya for doing what is humane.
And that is also why one can replace Helen's allusion of Annie as actually a Malay male with an imagination of her as that girl with the clarinet or an older version of the girl at the spad hawker stall.
It's all in the mind. And that is why M 2.0 must realize his steering wheel is starting to veer off-north. The two cambers of his proton need some re-tuning.
Steer true north, Malaysia. Now is the time, this is the place to unchain one and all from the fear of political blackmail of a majority whose good feelings are otherwise cowered by the strident hecklings of an unthinking irrational blinkered ultimately self-serving group who will never ask the necessary question to all issues - "what's to be next then?".
In other words, grow up lah.
Your valid points well taken, but many here will be scratching their heads...even if their engrish didn't fail them.
DeleteYour exhortation for them to grow up...well, that's easier said than done. These Ketuanan mentality has taken well over 4 decades to consistently and carefully nurtured via BTN and other propaganda routes that for the majority, Umno is the Government and the Government is Umno. Or was for the past 61 years.
So how to change such deep seated indoctrination ? It is deeply embedded into their very souls. It will take another 60 years or more to even unravel this mess and we won't be here to witness, that is, if this country will not be in smithereens by then.
The Polis and MCMC must jointly go after those who have threatened to murder Syerleena Abdul Rashid. This must be top priority.
DeleteUnless the coalition government wants this country to become a papagomo planet of the apes.
Anin 23:25
ReplyDelete... in this case, probably the Home Minister or his deputy....
Home Minister masuk hospital. Anwar masuk hospital. Tun in and out. Sorang Adun dah Arwah. Naib CM penang heart attack. If I am Allah oso heart attack..hardly 2 months after PH won.. pakat dok KO aje?
And the weather since the start of syawal.. been gloomy, cloudy and rainy memanjang.. risau la
Macam fungsui tak menyebelahi PH nampak gaya?
Any fungsui sifu/professors out there to enlighten us please.
Professor Nasi Lemak
Prof Nasi Lemak...if you are a Muslim quickyly Istighfar.Your comment is bordering on syirik.
DeleteThese blind BN supporters have been doing all kind of things but they also believe all will be forgiven once they perform their Haj or Umrah.Look at those pictures of Najib praying in Mecca but still lost,Alhamdulillah.
DeleteYang orang india dap ni mengaku orang malaysia tetapi dok ikut kehendak kerajaan india pasaipa...mengaku depa tak racist...tapi sebenarnya depa paling racist...kurang ajar
ReplyDeleteBukan ikut kehendak kerajaan India lah...hanya ikut extradition agreement. Itu pun tak faham.
DeleteBetul tu, semua orang lain yang paling racist, hanya kau orang yang paling jujur dan alim. Dulu dulu nenek moyang kau orang kan hindu jugak, sebelum Paramesuara masuk Islam. Kalau tak pandai dalam History, pi baca baik baik sebelum datang kat sini mengamuk dan marah.
Good mayb the present gov shud consider sending u to hold talks in some vry hostility area. Hope yr fair arguements cud really makes some differences n get out unscatched. :) U only talks in yr own thots without understanding theirs.
ReplyDeletePatriot_7
mcm zakir, foreign wives dont creat problems too so they shud also be given PRs & allow to stay right wakakaka
ReplyDeleteThe malay muslim morons need a person like Zakir to tell other muslims they must vote against the kafir.
ReplyDeleteChina will provide Arab states with $20 billion in loans so all these donation nonsense from poor arabs shud cease wakakaka
ReplyDeleteInteresting developmenta after GE14.Nobody is happy.BN supporters are unhappy becaause they lost the election.Mahathir is unhappy because his party only win 13 seats.Anwar is unhappy because he has to wait a bit longer to be the prime minister.DAP is unhappy because they don't get what they are fighting for such as the UEC recognition.The indians arw unhappy because Mahathir refuse to deport Zakir Naik back to India.PH supporters are generally unhappy because the govt fail to honour most of its election promises.so,who is happy?
ReplyDeleteProf Kangkung
Najib is happy he is still free and can eat his chocolates
DeleteYou forgot about Kak Rosmah, haha. Very remiss of you. She's one very very UNhappy woman now...her new plastic surgery nose makes her look like a witch, the blue black bruises from the recent surgery for all the world to see, her millions worth of Birkin semua hilang, her 12,000 pieces jewellery semua melayang hehe. Consolation : her pink diamond worth 127 million is well hidden...the singh cop won't be able to find it. But her biggest unhappiness is she lost the title of FLOM...forever ! hooohooo...and yet she said don't cry for me, hehe.
Deletei dont listen to zakir naik lectures but i will stand by him if anything would to happen and cant wait to break some of their fucking bones and burn some properties
ReplyDeleteJust curious. anything happen to yr beloved ZN wud came from the authorities actually u mean u wanna burn some gov properties down ?
DeletePatriot_7
All these bullshit is just irrelevant noise.
ReplyDeleteThe reality, if you fucking idiots can handle it, is that Pakatan is in power for the next 5 years.
And we gonna fuck you up real good.
that's what counts.
Good point
DeleteI read the link provided by Annie above. I am curious at the following statement attributed to Gobind Singh referring to himself as among PH Indian ministers:
ReplyDelete"He revealed that Human Resource Minister M. Kulasegaran, Water, Land and Natural Resources Minister Dr Xavier Jayakumar and himself as Indian ministers in the cabinet had spoken about this with the prime minister."
Now. My question. Since when a Punjabi in Malaysia is Indian? I concur with Punjabis in Indian Punjab who are referred to as Indian. Indian for them is their nationality. But surely Punjabis in Malaysia are Malaysians. Not Indians.
It is tough isn't it?
DeleteTo be Malaysian.
It seems easier just to be Melayu. Cina. India. Punjabi. Dan seterusnya.
Multicultural Malaysia is the best
DeleteAnonymous @ 13 July 2018 at 22:47,
ReplyDelete//You are wrong.There are alot of science in the Quran including ...//
Is it science or someone trying to fit science into words written a long time ago?
I will bet you that if I wanted to, I could probably find the recipe for spaghetti bolognaise in most science books :)
Gladiator
Mr know it all,
DeleteIts the scientists that were mesmerised by the the science in the Quran For example the professor of O&G at the University of Toronto who wrote a book on embryology in the 90s but smart alec like you think you know everything.Please show me the recipe of sphagetti bolognaise in any reputable science book.
Anonymous @ 14 July 2018 at 18:24,
ReplyDelete//i dont listen to zakir naik lectures but i will stand by him//
Hahahahahahah!!!
So, you are admit clueless but you will stand by him?
You are hired!!
You just the kind of moron needed for the job :)
//if anything would to happen and cant wait to break some of their fucking bones and burn some properties//
HAHAHAHAAHAH!!
You might want to give your keyboard a quick wipe, I think you have shit on it :)
Gladiator
you think? who cares what you think...you can even think of fucking your own mother and it makes different
DeleteProf kangkung,
ReplyDelete//Mahathir is unhappy because his party only win 13 seats.//
How do you know that?
//Anwar is unhappy because he has to wait a bit longer to be the prime minister.//
How do you know that?
//DAP is unhappy because they don't get what they are fighting for such as the UEC recognition.//
How do you know that?
//The indians arw unhappy because Mahathir refuse to deport Zakir Naik back to India.//
How do you know that?
//PH supporters are generally unhappy because the govt fail to honour most of its election promises.//
How do you know that?
//so,who is happy?//
You?
Why do I think that?
Because you believe that everybody in Pakatan is unhappy?
Gladiator
Gladiator
DeleteMasuk keluaq hospital tu tanda2 unhappy la. Stress, depression mesti ada yang tak boleh tidoq malam2.
Happy people lain tau.. ceria, sihat, smiling all the time and always full of love.
Muka2 PH leaders macam nak makan orang aje tiap hari. Even PH diehards sini, otak asyik nak makan 'tahi', grumpy marah orang memanjang.. haiyaaa
Professor Nasi Lemak
Another silly U turn from Apandi Ali and UMNO. Even KJ lambasted Apandi Ali's appointment into UMNO Supreme Council by Zahid as disappointing and
ReplyDeleteApandi's change of mind as embarassing. Any comment Annie since KJ is your idol and you like to talk about "U Turn"s lately ?
Ya Annie...apa komen lu..Perlantikan Apandi Ali dalam UMNO dan kemudian tukar fikiran pulak..sangat memalukan
DeleteA gathering of the old guards in frostering perceptions that the 1mdb scandal is a myth
DeleteIts a bitter pil to swallow inorder to emerge as an effective opposition in new Malaysia
A new Malaysia and what it mean't
A scourge(corruption) by the old is now scoured by the new
Thus,eliminating corruption
Umno remained status quo,without a whimper/ripple for change
Fadzireen
Anon 10:28
DeleteLook yourself in the mirror. Esok dh nak bersidang, Speaker pun belum lantik??? Lagi malu.
UMNO tu dah kira not in the radar la, tak kisah le mereka nak buat apa pun. Moo why so busybody?
Professor Nasi Lemak.
Oi...orang tanya Annie la, apasal hang pulak yang jawab. Tak ngerti baca ke? Bodoh dan bangang betul Prof Celup ni.
DeleteHaha...Professor ketinggalan zaman...PM sudahpun lantik Speaker wei..Kau tidur lagi macam UMNO ke?
Deletei miss ahmad deedat..sigh.
ReplyDelete-haku-
https://youtu.be/IpYO_LuYExk
ReplyDeleteJudge grilled India Agency for False Case!!! Zakir Naik wins court case.
Kami pun dok excited nunggu RM2.6b n 1MDB haiyaaa... palu gendang bertahun2, tapi takde ape2 pun?
Apa semua takut kena panggang ke? Silap2 nanti cabinet PH tinggal kosong, semua landing kat hospital with heart attack..
Professor Nasi Lemak
Professor 10:55. What talk cock u ?
DeleteAnon 17:04
DeletePoor moos.. mental stressful nampaknya,
...hoi wake up la. PH dah lama menang. No need to cock shit all the time oredi, time to show us results!
BTW.. harga cock masih mahal la kat pasar borong. Bila mau turun???
Professor Nasi Lemak
PKHKC Nasi Lemak is as stupid as they come.
Delete60 years of fucking NEP gave Melayu such moron.
Pok Kai maruah la.
Anon 19:11
DeleteEh.. sori2 cannot sebut cock. Sensitif bebenar for Anwar and his moo supporters..
BTW malam ni pukul brapa confirm Speaker Dewan? After World cup final ke?
Professor Nasi Lemak
Unknown 21:41...Profesor Cock Nasi Lemak...u lapar dedak ke ? Najib sudah stop kasi u dedeak ke ? Account frozen la tu...Minta derma la kalau lapar dedak
DeleteProf Nasi Lemak ate too much Dedak during Najib's era and now spewing idiotic comments through his ass**le
ReplyDeleteAnon 19:36
DeleteMu jgn sebut2 ass**le.
Nanti tersinggung pula Anwar.
Professor Nasi Lemak
Unknown 1:17..kenapa tak boleh sebut ass**le ? Sebab u are one kan? ...siapa makan cili dia yg rasa pedas...kau ni sudah sah Prof nasi lemak faggort
DeleteAku tahu Prof Nasi Lemak ini mmg closet gay
DeleteAnd even if We had sent down to them the angels [with the message] and the dead spoke to them [of it] and We gathered together every [created] thing in front of them, they would not believe unless Allah should will. But most of them, [of that], are ignorant.
ReplyDelete-Quran (6:111)
Anon 19:38,
DeleteWasn't that the message?
And Quran is read by the Muslims. So I suppose the message is for the Muslims.
More so for preachers like Zakir Naik.
A kafir who doesn't believe, has committed no sin because it's not Allah's will that he should believe.
If Allah do not will that a person should believe, why must Zakir Naik makes him to look like a fool like what Annie claimed? To show off?
Let's be clear here, that if there's even the slightest of riak in your heart, you can not enter jannah.
And now that you have believed, what do you do for the grace of Allah?
Do you practise your deen and preach to the unbelievers?
Or, like umno you make them your imaginary enemies and you plan with your fellow Muslims to annihilate them, like Zakir Naik?
We have not sent down the Quran unto you to cause you distress
Delete-Quran (20:2)
And those who strive for Us - We will surely guide them to Our ways. And indeed, Allah is with the doers of good.
Delete- Quran (29:69)
So leave Me, [O Muhammad], with [the matter of] whoever denies the Qur'an. We will progressively lead them [to punishment] from where they do not know.
Delete-Quran (68:44)
But it is nothing else than a Reminder to all the 'Alamin (mankind, jinns and all that exists).
Delete-Quran (68:52)
Sweetheart u hasn't change the topic yet ? Out of curiousity go watch a few videos of Zakir Naik talks. All i can say it was purely academics rebuff. From now on I'm gonna be a ppl of books too, my science book. :) N there will be no other god but one god, my god of $.$. As long as ppls r happy with their religions n do not interferes into other tis world wud be at peace.
ReplyDeletePatriot_7
This is longest period Annie has yet to move on to a new posting. Getting bored reading zakir naik & turun..
ReplyDeleteProf Nasi Lemak,
ReplyDelete//Masuk keluaq hospital tu tanda2 unhappy la. //
True, that is one reason why some people go to hospital.
But another reason why people go to hospital is because of age.
Believe it or not, old people get old people problems but then most people don't realise this until they get old :)
As far as I know, Mahatir, Muhyiddin and Hanipa have all attended hospital recently for problems associated with their age.
In Mahatir's case, any hospitalisation does not seem to have affect his sharp tongue, much to the despair of some UMNO people.
Meek-and-mild-looking Hanipa may be fragile, but I found out that he has a wicked sense of humour - I recall being puzzled at a PRU14 ceramah about his references to going to the mamak shop and ordering roti Najib, until he explained that it was roti tak de telur :)
I have not heard anything about Lim Kit Siang going to hospital.
The ones who experience the most stresses would be people like Mat Sabu, Lim Guan Eng, Azmin Ali, Gobind Singh, Maszlee Malik, etc.
I have not heard anything about them going to hospital either.
//Happy people lain tau.. ceria, sihat, smiling all the time and always full of love//
I wonder what you would say if it was Lim Kit Siang showing how happy he is with the current situation.
I do know that Najib does exhibit exactly what you are saying - happy, ceria, sihat, smiling all the time, and always full of love.
So, I guess by your measure, he is full of good health.
I wonder if he still takes quinoa.... or the happy pills he is prescribed.
Gladiator
hahaha... good reply Mr G.
DeleteProf Nasi Lemak ni macam tak bersantan lah..
Anon 10:05....haha betul tu....bukan saja tak bersantan, Prof Nasi Lemak ni nampaknya juga tak bertelur
DeleteG
DeleteLKS sebenar malu kat sedara mara dia dari Tanah besar. Sana mereka dah lama hantar even perempuan naik roket ka angkasa lepas...
Sini roket DAP sekadar mampu ikat kat batang pokok kelapa saja bertahun2.. kalau cucu dia naik sure koyak wan.. kekekeke
Professor Nasi Lemak.
Unknown 16:37 Another example of talk cock by this faggort Prof Nasi Lemak
DeleteAnonymous @ 15 July 2018 at 19:42,
ReplyDelete//you think? who cares what you think...//
Heheheheh!!
You obviously do :)
//you can even think of fucking your own mother//
Good grief!! You have those thoughts about your mum and you are trying to project them on others?
Shame on you.
Look, when people say you gotta love your mum, that is not what they mean, OK? :)
Gladiator
Gladiator, who are you referring to ? There is no Anon 19:42
DeleteAnnie, got any photo of Tun M with Manny Pacquaio ?
ReplyDeleteAnonymous@ 16 July 2018 at 07:10,
ReplyDelete//who are you referring to ? There is no Anon 19:42//
Look at my comments @ 15 July 2018 at 01:26 and the person who replied.
Or use your browser to search for the time stamp.
Gladiator