Thursday 8 January 2015

Malaysians need to shun the real extremists among them (updated)

UPDATES

The injured French policeman seen executed without mercy by one of the gunmen in the Paris attack turned out to be a Muslim,



ORIGINAL POST

The gunmen attack in Paris which left twelve people, including two policemen dead yesterday was perhaps scarier than other recent acts of terror due to the cold bloodedness of the perpetrators.

Here is the picture of one of the gunmen aiming his AK-47 assault rifle at an injured policeman who was obviously pleading for his life.


The gunman just shot the policeman in the head.

The murderers, clad in all black, were immediately suspected as affiliated or at least supporters of the notorious Islamic State (IS) group, now waging their brand of jihad in Syria and Iraq.

IS members were known to be dressed in all black combat gear and reputedly had shown no mercy for their enemies.

The latest news on the attack as I am writing this is,

Two suspects in Paris attack 'located'

The suspects who are brothers had likely committed the heinous attack due to their belief that their target, the satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo had insulted Islam.

IS brutal conduct in the battlefields of Syria and Iraq could had inspired them to act with such barbarity during the attack.

Though I myself don't take kindly when Islam is being insulted, I want to strongly state here that reacting the way the brothers did is definitely wrong and should be condemned.

That is not how Islam should be defended.

Now, if it is true that the brothers were indeed members of the IS or its supporters, then we in Malaysia should be concerned about the possibility of such act of violence occurring here too.

Malaysians are known to have joined IS, fought with them and some had even known to die in combat.

Here is a video of a group of Malaysian IS fighters,



And this is a video of one of them who was killed in battle being lionized as an Islamic hero,



I believe the government should do more to curb the influence of IS in this country if similar incident in Paris is to be avoided.

We all talk a lot about curbing the extremists and fanatics these days. Well, this is our chance to act on it.

I hope for Malaysians to reject the brand of extremism and fanaticism such as that of IS and those who support the group in this country.

Do check as to who are these Malaysian IS fighters and reject anyone or any organization who sympathize with them.

Are they from Perkasa or Isma, which had been depicted by especially the non-Muslims of this country as extremists and fanatics?

If they are, then those group must be shunned by all Malaysians.

I want to also state my disagreement with this "celebrity ustaz" who seems to be sympathetic to IS,


76 comments:

  1. Walawei Annie. You also on Habibul's payroll?

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    1. Remember Amanat Hj Hadi that label Umno kafir ? That is extremist act and We are liteyears ahead lar. Hj Badi never retracted his amanat gila. Remember CN Al Afghani was so obsessed wt the amanat, he went to Afghanistan n fought there. Upon return home, he plotted Tun M murder plan n earned him tiket to Kamunting. So if u want to check terrorism here, talk to hj badi first ok. And the bangang guy had repealed ISA pula.

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    2. Cikgu Non repents and reveals the Hypocrisy of the TAKFIRI fatwa of Amanat Hadi Awang

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Hxyc3CE2ZQ

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  2. Kelantan RED WARRIORS sah cuma Pondan-Pondan yang berlagak bodoh-sombong, berlagak gedeber, hakikatnya lemah lembut, pondan, dayus lebih teruk drp betina dan pondan Jalan Chow Kit.

    RED Warrior tak berani tegur Kerajaan PAS Kelantan, tak beri persoal kemana halatuju Islam Kerajaan Pas Kelantan, kenapa beri Tanah Balak pada Dap Lahanat Nga & Ngeh Bersaudara, hingga mereka jadi Jutawan Kaya Raya, Puak Pimpinan Pas Kelantan Makan Rasuah simpan duit, Rakyat Kelantan makin miskin..

    Puak Red Warrior Ibu Kota MELIWAT orang kampong, mencelakakan kehidupan Mak Bapak, Ibu dan Ayah, sanak saudara kerana menyebarkan Dakyah Puak Pimpinan Rasuah Pas..

    Para Pemimpin PASMA Kerajaan PAS Kelantan Perasuah Tegar.., Husam Musa kaya raya...Dr Hata Ramli Kaya Raya...

    Red Warrior memang macam PONDAN...Lembik, Longlai..cuma tahu memuaskan Nafsu di Takbai, Golok..Minom lah kat sana puas-puas, balik Kelate jadi alim balik...

    Biar lagi banyak malapetala, bala turun di Kelantan, disebabkan masyarakat Kelantan, memang macam itu...tak mahu mengubah nasib, apa lagi menegakkan kebenaran.

    APA RED WARRIOR ADER TELOR KER?

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    1. Red Warrior tu bukan jolokan kepada pasukan bola sepak kelantan ke?

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    2. Bukan orang yang berakhlak mulia yang dimaksudkan atau yang hatinya baik. Tapi jenis kasar macam Mat Sabo pembodek Cina kaya komunis DAP itu.

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  3. No senseless killing in Islam, adinda Ms Annie
    as reminded since Prophet Musa AS.


    For that cause We decreed earlier for the Children of Israel that whosoever killeth a human being for other than manslaughter or corruption in the earth it shall be as if be had killed all mankind ..
    and whoso saveth the life of one it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind. Our messengers came unto them of old with clear proofs but afterwards lo! many of them became prodigals in the earth.

    -- Surah al-Maaidah (5: 32)


    Salam Jumaat!


    Haji M Zin
    Alor Gajah DPH

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    1. Salam Tuan Haji, minta maaf nak tanya sikit, DPH tu stand untuk apa?

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    2. What is Islam?: Sayyid Umar bin Hafiz, a descendant of the blessed Prophet Muhammad s.a.w., who hails from the Hadramaut region of Yemen.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt5hAesOAzc

      An interview at the University of New South Wales
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVes8GU9T6U

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    3. Wa alaikumu Salam, TQ and Alor Gajah DPH, Sdr ANON 09:01
      is Dinamik Progresif dan Holistik.

      Re. Green Apple Award :
      ( GAA to MPAG link : http://www.thegreenorganisation.info/winners-environmental-best-practice-awards-2014/ )
      Alor Gajah was awarded the International Green Apple Award for Environment Best Practice And Sustainable Development 2014 di House of Parliament, Westminster London.


      Haji M Zin
      Melaka MF II

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    4. You certainly love your hometown very much. Tabik spring pada Tuan Haji.

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  4. Jihadists and extremist in Malaysia must be dealt with swiftly and effectively. Anwar Ibrahim also led a group of Umno Youth members to the desert of Libya to be trained on how to use weapons. I hope the authority can check on this again.

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    1. This ustaz auta mendorong orang mati syahid tapi dia sendiri maju duniawi sekawan dengan DAP komunis Cina sekongkol dengan Anwat al-Juburi peliwat zionis.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0P0pLPAqFQ

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    2. Anwar Ibrahim is the Master of puppets.

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    3. Yes, love this favourite black-metal oldie :

      Come crawling faster
      Obey your master
      Your life burns faster
      Obey your master
      Master, master
      Master of puppets, I'm pulling your strings
      Twisting your mind and smashing your dreams
      Blinded by me, you can't see a thing
      Just call my name, 'cause I'll hear you scream
      Master, master ..
      ( siren sounding guitar riffs )
      Master, master, where's the dreams that I've been after?
      Master, master, you promised only lies
      Laughter, laughter, all I hear and see is laughter
      Laughter, laughter, laughing at my cries

      -- Metallica , 1986


      Haji M Zin
      Alor Gajah DPH

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    4. Terbaikkkkk Tn Haji!!! That's Anwar. Lyric tu cukup sesuai mengambarkan sifat anwar al juburi

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    5. Yes great eerie lyrics, Sdr ANON 22:40
      but mature rockers just can't get over the siren-sounding guitar riffs by Kirk Hammet in the middle of the song.

      NB:
      (1) Total Guitar UK ranked the main riff of the title track at number seven among the top twenty guitar riffs.
      (2) President Jokowi is a great fan and was given his guitar,

      You will find the and black-metal song, Master of Puppets on YouTube.


      Haji M Zin
      Alor Gajah DPH

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    6. Tuan, Metallica Thrash Metal, saya memang minat metal. Tak salahkan nak betulkan info
      huhuhu.

      i think Hati Syaitan by SYJ lagi sesuai to desribe anwar.

      Hati Syaitan - SYJ

      Durjana kau
      yang punya angkara
      mengalih setiap pandangan manusia
      yang benar kaupalsukan
      tugasmu seumpama syaitan.

      Kau membenci sesama sendiri
      kelakuan menurut nafsu hati
      celaka, laknatlah kau
      pergi kau sial dari hidup ini.

      Laknat
      penyelewengan umat
      laknat, laknatlah kau, kau, kau.

      Sedarlah kau
      akan kepanasan
      api yang membara
      neraka durjana
      kasihani tubuhmu
      tak sanggup melihat ia menjadi debu



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  5. i agree. such action is not islamic at all. but if theres indeed isis member here in msia, those who lean on insulting islam and provocating the muslim should really think hard before saying something now. u are after all accountable for wht u say, take ur freedom of speech and use it at your own risk.

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    1. Dont worry the isis members here are stupid. They have no balls.

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    2. i guess we'll see. like I said, at their own risk

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    3. Islamic extremists always hurt the Islamic mukmin the most.

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  6. What are 'extremists' and 'moderates'. What makes people 'extremists' and 'moderates"? Who are these people?

    When people talk about "extremists' and 'moderates' it is always aimed Muslim Malays. So in this country Malay Muslims have the monopoly of over extremism and moderation. If Malay Muslims sit quietly when consistently provoked by others, then they are moderates. If trhey react diferently, they are extremists.

    Those who provoke are not extremists?

    It's high time we start defining what is extremism and moderation and who really are the extermists and moderates. The 'Eminent 25' are supposedly Malay Muslim moderates and now more are identifying with them. What do they stand for? Are they and their like what the non-Malay Muslims want?

    I believe that people just want Malay Muslims to just lie down and die. Only thwn will there be no more extremists; only moderates will populate this country.. There will be no more "uncouth mouths" to defend the Malay Muslims. Only Wong Chun Wai of the STAR, Saifuddin Abdullah the REJECT, the Eminent 25 and their following will prevail. Malaysia will then progress and prosper.

    What bloody bullshit!

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    1. im seeing the same game over there at france. they provoce, and they wont take any weights on their actions. now its a one sided game, nobody took notice on the roots of all of this.

      there have been numerous vid debates regarding france attitude and double standards towards their version of freedom of speech. people are telling them tht wht they said hurt others. i guess they pick their fight then. similar thing in malaysia. eventually its gonna erupt. wht we should do is take this as a reminder. jgn memperkecilkan org melayu bila mengamuk. wht happen to the chinese in indonesia should be a preview of wht might comes if people doesnt learn to keep their mouth shut and think before they speak.

      we do condemn the actions. but if people are to be a lil bit smarter they should know wht to avoid and not do.

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    2. "Malaysia will then progress and prosper".

      You said it, brudder!

      Tongue-in-the-cheek irony can backfire, especially when the jury is still out on how Malaysia will do the hard reforms on the path to 2020.

      You ask what the "Eminent 25" stand for? I thought that they made it pretty explicit.

      Let me ask you - what do the Malay-Muslims in Malaysia stand for? Are they still subscribing to the "pendatangs" mindset?

      If yes, you shouldn't mind if Muslim immigrants in, say, France, are categorised as "pendatangs" also.

      Unless you are applying double standards?

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    3. Anon 10:45

      "wht happen(sic) to the chinese(sic) in indonesia(sic)...."

      Really?

      Are you condoning looting, arson, murders and mass rapes like what happened in Indonesia?

      Well, we know what happened in Indonesia. Among other things, Suharto was forced to step down.

      If such things happen in Malaysia, retribution will be swift.

      It's pretty easy to sanction Malaysia into irrelevance.

      The government knows this.

      It appears you don't.

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    4. Chewers of Gum must perish9 January 2015 at 13:36

      Anon 8.14 - you seem to have a broad definition of who is an extremist, basically someone who offends you. Remind me never to fart its I pass you in the street.
      How about a more basic definition of extremist - someone who will kill you or promote the idea of killing you or support those who plan to kill you just because you disagree with them. Fair or not?

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  7. I agree with you Annie that this is a barbaric act & against Islamic teaching. I am a member of ISMA & please be informed that we are not violent. We counter all provocations against Islam in Malaysia (which is getting quite rampant now) with the pen & our intellect.
    Truly, Sharifah .

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  8. Annie,

    " Are they from Perkasa or Isma, which had been depicted by especially the non-Muslim of this country as extremists and fanatics? "

    The non muslims are ignorant of Islam and its teaching. Perkasa and Isma as far as I'm aware are ' fighting' for Islam. Surely you , if not them, the non muslims can see the difference ?

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    1. Chewers of Gum must perish9 January 2015 at 13:43

      I think that maybe Annie's comment is misunderstood. ISMA and Perkasa are only examples (I understand why you wish to defend them). But perhaps what she is really saying is that those who support or lionize those who kill in the name of their belief need to be addressed as much as those doing the killing. For ax ample, the Government rightly condemns the barbarism of IS but there is woefully little done to address those who praise those who leave Malaysia to fight, or those that recruit or provide other support for them.

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    2. Annie is jumping the gun here. The connection of this group with IS is premature as investigations are still on going.

      What makes it worse is to link it to perkasa and Isma just because both NGOs champion for Islam here in Malaysia. ( I wonder whether the those people kill in the name of Islam as they claimed , or even they are connected with IS just because they are wearing black outfits)

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    3. Org islam yg takut pembalasan di hari akhirat akan cuba menghindari sedaya upaya melakukan perbuatan mungkar.

      Namun begitu adalah satu perkara yang 'gila' untuk terus membuat provokasi dan penghinaan berterusan keatas dirinya atau agamanya dan mengharapkan tiada tindak balas berlaku.

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  9. The problem is criticism by non Muslim even on IS often is regarded as insulting Islam.

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    1. that ostad retard slaughtered how many innocent muslims and non-muslims in syria and iraq now being portrayed as hero? and sex jihad?

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  10. Isma bukannya extremist.
    sila baca link berikut dan fikirkan.
    http://21stcenturywire.com/2015/01/07/paris-shooting-the-magazine-murders-at-charlie-hebdo-reveal-evidence-of-staging/

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  11. Where did that Ostad got the number of US death in Iraq to be 20,000? Ada wahyu ka? As always he talk cock, no dalil at all. The problem with the malays is that the always terima bulat2 dongeng begin. Don't blame the chinese for the malays sorry state now, blame these ostads. They are selling Islam to get into polygamy and all its associated sins.

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    1. Ditto you. Making accusation and sweeping generalisation about the malays and ustaz without concrete evidence.

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    2. This Commercial Ostad Ferrari thrice-married is a wannabe who tries hard to prevent his Wahhabi Isle from spilling out from his neurotic obsession for issuing fatwas to the general public . . . that would properly require the consultation of many members from among the learned and pious scholars.

      Ladies and gentlemen some of you may know our venerable Syeikh Said Ramadan al-Buti who has visited Malaysia many times - one of the foremost Sufi scholars in the world.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gg3F6opyGw

      . . . before he was brutally murdered in a masjid in Syria in 2013 while he was lecturing about the virtues of Islam.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHxBsv1rDHs

      The sheikh belongs to a Kurdish tribe that is spread across Syria, Iraq and Turkey. He was born on the Boutan Island of Turkey in 1929 and headed to Syria with his father at the age of four. Once a little older he went on to study religion in Damascus
      Al-Bouti started his career teaching at a secondary school in Homs in 1958 and 1961, he was appointed as part of the Shariah faculty at Damascus University. In 1965, Bouti moved to Egypt where he received a doctorate in Sharia law at al-Azhar University. He headed back to Syria, and where he was once a faculty member, he progressed into the respected position of vice dean at the College of Islamic Law at Damascus University in 1975 and in 1977 became dean.
      Bouti then retired but continued to lecture and write about Islamic affairs. He has authored more than 60 books and was a prominent religious reference in the Muslim world, holding the presidency of the Scholars Union for the Levant region.
      But despite his open support for President Assad, Syeikh al-Bouti was reported to have issued a Fatwa, or religious edict prohibiting the killing of protesters.

      http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/2013/03/22/-Sheikh-al-Bouti-the-Syrian-Sunni-cleric-who-stood-by-Assad.html

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    3. Hahaha.

      Are you the same ' copy and paste' guy from Annie's article - The Election 22nd December 2014?

      Guess old habits die hard.

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    4. Those violent ISIS asses have killed many more learned sheikh in Iraq and blown tens of masjids including the traditional burial site of Prophet Jonah/Yunus.

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    5. If all Muslims were true sufis then all people would be muslims.

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    6. Dedication to your sheikh Anon 11:42:

      Asturias by Isaac Albeniz

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEfFbuT3I6A&list=PLD15AF3F721D9841B

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  12. Annie,
    This is the result,when freedom of speech,use of satire and degree of sensttivity collide.

    Even democracy has its own limitation,so does being satirical.

    By using satire to the hilt is equivelent to 'to throw the stone and hide the hand'

    They hid behind freedom of speech

    Sorry to say,can we called the said journalist's mother a whoore?

    We cannot,out of shear respect.

    Journalists should tread a fineline to camouflage their inclinations

    You give respect to gain respect

    Who is to be blamed for this tragedy

    Modern Man, Stone Age Mentality.

    Fadzireen

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  13. 10:45 "wht we should do is take this as a reminder. jgn memperkecilkan org melayu bila mengamuk. wht happen to the chinese in indonesia should be a preview of wht might comes if people doesnt learn to keep their mouth shut and think before they speak."

    You think so???
    You think it is so difficult to smuggle guns and ammo from neighboring country??
    You think there won't be retaliation??

    Don't fucking talk cock.
    You should fucking keep your mouth shut.

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  14. haha i guess they fail to smuggle guns in indo.

    u provoke i give a response thts how it works. u dont like the response dont provoke us further. its tht simple. u dont let history repeat itself if u are at all thinking. and we do have a dark history.

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    1. Yup.

      Maybe that's why the ringgit is in the pits.

      You may be able to sell your crap arguments to the uneducated credulous.

      Let's see if your bluff is called.

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    2. Don't you think the ringgit sinking becos ah jib gor playing poker with his croni 1mdb? 2 billion RM in arrears boys...

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    3. so what should we do genius? let the provocateur and racist master LKS take over the country?....

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  15. Wei melayu, kenapa kamu semua bodoh sangat. Tak usah lah mengungkit tentang kejadian tahun 1969. Keadaan sekarang jauh berbeza. Dahulu pun bangsa malayu banyak yg mati walaupun pada masa itu kamu semua bersatu. Sekarang kamu semua sudah berpecah kepada 3. Jika berlaku rusuhan kamu yg akan kalah. Kalah teruk kerana melayu akan berbunuh sesama melayu. Orang cina sentiasa bersatu dari dahulu sehingga sekarang. Org org kaya melayu akan melarikan diri, yang tinggal hanya melayu kampung yg kebanyakannya sudah tua, yang muda sudah berhijrah ke kota dan kebanyakkannya menjadi penagih dadah, merempit dan perogol anak kandung sendiri. Jangan lah bermimpi melayu singapura akan membantu kamu, janganlah bermimpi indonesia akan bantu kamu kerana mereka benci malaysia, mereka panggil malingsial kerana kamu bodoh dan bangang. Thailand tidak sesekali bantu kamu kerana mereka tahu kamu yg memporak peranda selatan thailand. Jika kamu fikir kamu ada askar melayu kamu silap kerana askar melayu sendiri telah berpecah kepada menyokong dumno, pas dan pkr. So tolong lah wahai melayu bodoh jgn lah bersikap bodoh dan sombong kerana anda tidak akan menang pun. Anda pemalas, suka bergaduh sesama sendiri, suka kepada gossip, anda suka mengamalkan rasuah, suka berdengki dan cepat melatah dan suka berkhayal. Anda cukup mudah dibeli dengan wang ringgit. RM50 sudah cukup untuk membeli anda. Pemimpin anda hanya pentingkan diri, suka menghasut dan tidak mempunyai wawasan. Jika berlaku kekacauan india dan cina akan bersatu. Jadi melayu melayu semua jangan lah anda terlalu perasan

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    1. Komen tolol begini elok dipadam shj. Dia tak tahu pun the so called Southern Thailand up to Ithmus of Kra were in fact the Malay land...generously ceded to Siam by the British.

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    2. now its belong to them you idiot! Dont talk about the past. Its over! Inilah satu lagi masalah melayu bengong yg tak cerdik tapi nak bercakap. Bahalol!

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    3. Wei, wei, wei, Mat sabo king VP PAS tu dia mahu bagi semenanjung kita kepada Kit Siang komunis Cina chin peng! Maka si pengganas membunuh polis-polis Melayu Bukit Kepong adalah pejuang kemerdekaan! Hahahaha! Terdengarku le ni dia duk makan gaji cina kafir tu kan?

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  16. Why not for a change mass provoke the chinese and the christian together with their propaganda machines..Msia kini/insider/bersih/bar council/malay mail/BFM and the liberal Malays. We see if they can stay quiet i.e moderate (using their term).

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    1. You typify the weak minded asshole that dumno needs to remain in power.

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    2. Fuiyooo.so angly arr... no moderate one meh?

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  17. What do the Eminent 25 stand for, Sdr ANON 11: 17?
    Are you Muslim?

    Fatwas:
    These HEs Eminents (?) reject Fatwas from Majilis Fatwa/ Kebangsaan that are :

    1) based on al-Quran from the "Most EMINENT" and Hadith
    2) accepted by the majority/ ASWJ Malays regardless of political leanings
    3) enacted into state Syariah laws, that Muslim and non-Muslim YBs talk and talk but never change at DUN.


    From their opening lines they are apparently uneasy about Fatwas and surprisingly careless, like in their statement below :

    We refer specifically to the current situation where religious bodies seem to be asserting authority beyond their jurisdiction; where issuance of various Fatwa violate the Federal Constitution and breach the democratic and consultative process of shura ..

    Majlis Fatwa is answerable solely to Allah SWT. From where else and what 'creative Syaria' are your Eminents(?) suggesting us instead that is not based on Fatwas
    .. and the rest of us good Muslims if not Moderate what, Extermists ?


    Cukuplah bersyubahat agenda/ ketagih ruangan evangelis Star, termasuk Yg Bhg Datin Paduka tu.


    Haji M Zin
    Alor Gajah DPH

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    1. Tuan Haji

      You are not "equating" fatwas with divinely inspired revelations, are you?

      Are you saying that the Majlis Fatwa is so honoured and privileged to be privy to the Heart and Mind of God and to be able to clearly fathom His Thoughts?

      That is a mighty big claim, which we lesser mortals dare not make.

      Instead, we look up to Heaven and pray "God, please be merciful to me, a sinner".

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    2. I see.

      It's one law for the Muslims and one law for everyone else who is beyond the pale, so to speak.

      Like what's happening in Brunei where the religious authorities have banned the public celebration of Christmas because they fear that Muslims could be led astray.

      Really?

      I thought that a person's faith, if genuine, should be able to withstand all temptations, with the help of humble prayers to The Almighty.

      "Muslims should be careful not to follow celebrations such as these (Christmas, Deepavali, Chinese Lunar New Year etc) that are not in any way related to Islam...and could unknowingly damage the faith of Muslims (December 27 statement from the Brunei religious affairs ministry, as reported by AFP).

      Ah, now the other shoe drops.

      "unknowingly damage the faith of Muslims". That's a statement with significant consequences, which the Bruneians did not take into account.

      It gives non-Muslim majority countries a readymade excuse to ban public celebrations of Muslim festivals such as Idul Fitri because the faiths of non-Muslims could be "unknowingly damaged".

      The law of unintended consequences!

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    3. TQ on the Fatwa question Sdr ANON 18:45/ 11:17
      and the Majlis Fatwa interprets the Divine revelations for Fatwa application in our everyday life and society.
      ( that's Syaria life )


      Haji M Zin
      Alor Gajah DPH

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    4. Tuan Haji 19:21

      The Majlis Fatwa is comprised of men, is it not?

      I am not sure if women are represented in this organisation.

      These are mere mortals.

      How can they claim to know the Heart and Mind of God and to be privy to His Thoughts?

      For your thoughts are not my thoughts nor are your ways my ways...(Isaiah 55).

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    5. OK All laws are compiled by man, kan(?) Sdr ANON 10:30
      whether sourced from Parliament, or interpreted from Divine revelations.

      Not passing any judgement on our laws, codes and rules but following them make humans different, kan?


      Haji M Zin
      Alor Gajah DPH

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    6. Tuan Haji

      So men (and women) are not infallible?

      I thought that infallibility was one of the attributes of God.

      So, in intrepreting "divine revelations), men (and women) are deemed to be infallible?

      That's a mighty big claim.

      Unlike, say, in the Christian Bible called or spoke directly to the prophets.

      None of these prophets claimed to be infallible.

      I agree with your statement that humanity should live under the rule of law. To do otherwise would be give way to the law of the jungle.

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    7. 16.19.

      Pasal tulah ada majlis fatwa yg terdiri drp orang2 yg pakar/berpengetahuan dalam bidang masing2.

      Keputusan pula merujuk kpd Al quran dan As sunnah. Bukan keputusan seorang dan bukan hanya mengikut logik akal sahaja.

      Kalau ikut cakap you semua orang tidak terlepas daripada kesilapan jadi cakap siapa nak pakai? Yours?

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    8. Anon 17:16

      Well, were the prophets in the Old Testament (which, btw, predates the Qur'an) educated men "yg pakar/berpengetahuan dalam bidang masing2"?

      Or were they ordinary men who were called by God?

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    9. Mereka tu nabi dapat wahyu drpd Allah. Sekarang mana ada nabi setelah nabi Muhammad SAW. Tulah tak boleh bergantung kpd seorg saja .

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  18. Annie,
    (The following was cut and paste)

    Bill Donohue knows who is responsible for the massacre at Charlie Hebdo — the cartoonists themselves.

    The outspoken Catholic League president put a post on his group’s website called “Muslims are Right to be Angry,” in which he blasted the French paper for “the vulgar manner in which Mohammed has been portrayed.”

    Donohue said he abhors the violence, but blasted Stephane Charbonnier, the slain editor of the paper, where 12 people were shot dead by terrorists Wednesday.

    “It is too bad that he didn’t understand the role he played in his tragic death . . . Had he not been so narcissistic, he may still be alive,” Donohue said.

    The New York-based Catholic activist — whose group is not part of the official church — also complained that Charlie Hebdo mocked Catholics.

    “[The paper has] a long and disgusting rec­ord of going way beyond the mere lampooning of public figures and this is especially true of their depictions of religious figures,” he said. “For example, they have shown nuns masturbating and popes wearing condoms.”

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    1. How much support does Bill Donohue and the Catholic League have in their native US?

      You may be angry about insults to your religion and to people who your religion believe to be divinely inspired.

      That doesn't give you the right to kill the alleged offenders and perpetrators and innocent third parties in the name of your religion and your God.

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    2. Nice to know you Sir/madam anon10:22 ...so tell us when its right to kill others...emm Is it like US bombing Iraq...or Jews massacre the Palestinian or DAP killing the Malays or...

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    3. What kind of man is Bill Donohue?

      Bill Donohue, president of the Catholic League, issued a statement yesterday defending Father Benedict Groeschel, who earlier this week blamed child victims of pedophile priests for their rapes. Calling Groeschel’s service “heroic,” and his record “impressive,” Donohue claims Father Groeschel merely “hypothesized how a young person (14, 16 or 18, as he put it) could conceivably take advantage of a priest who was having a nervous breakdown.” Groeschel told the National Catholic Register that in a “lot of the cases, the youngster — 14, 16, 18 — is the seducer.”

      http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/1-catholic-leagues-bill-donohue-defends-pedophile-sympathizing-priest/news/2012/08/31/47879

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    4. Anon 21:03

      Too clever by half!

      I suppose that in your worldview, the 9/11 attacks didn't occur or was a conspiracy theory writ large?

      Isn't it a fact that more Muslims have been killed by Muslims than the US-led campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan?

      Where were you when Saddam Hussein was committing acts of genocide against his people? Or when the Taliban were running amok in Afghanistan? Or the blood letting in Iran after the Shah was deposed?

      It's convenient to have your own interpretation of history, isn't it?

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  19. Sebagai orang Islam saya lebih meletakkan kepercayaan kepada ilmu, integriti gandingan ahli2 ilmuan /cendekiawan islam dalam majlis fatwa berbanding 'the eminent 25'.

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    1. ahli ilmuwan islam dlm majlis fatwa lagi bodoh dan tebal egonye mengalahkan unta

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    2. Mereka dilantik berdasarkan merit masing2 oleh pihak berautoriti.

      Membuat tuduhan dan ejekan seperti kamu ni tidak memerlukan apa2 modal kecuali mempunyai hati yg berpenyakit dan pemikiran yg dangkal.

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  20. Ya Majlis Fatwa memang telus Sdr ANON 19:55
    kerana alhamduli'Llah sekarang kita boleh baca sendiri hujah daripada JAKIM berserta nass al-Quran dan Hadith yang sabit.
    ( e-Fatwa ada )

    Haji M Zin
    Alor Gajah DPH

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  21. I checked out Charlie Hebdo and found it a disgusting magazine. Certainly not one that I like to read.

    French culture, their social norms and values are so different from ours.

    But I suppose it is understandable for them.

    Held in high regard by the French is François-Marie Arouet (21 November 1694 – 30 May 1778), known by his nom de plume Voltaire, a French Enlightenment writer, historian, and philosopher famous for his wit, his attacks on the established Catholic Church, and his advocacy of freedom of religion, freedom of expression, and separation of church and state.

    Voltaire was credited with this quote: "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it".

    No wonder they could put up with the revolting Charlie Hebdo.

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  22. A perfect plate of (Halal) Char Kway Teow

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MkYMXpWiQg#t=42

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